# Opinion People > A legislative standoff in Washington reveals the performative nature of modern hearings while international intelligence operations stumble in the streets of Caracas. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1134 - **Published:** 2019-05-05 - **Length:** 2h 52m - **Topics:** [William Barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-barr.md), Venezuela Coup, [Mueller Report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md), [MMR Vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmr-vaccine.md), [Beto O'Rourke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beto-o-rourke.md), 1MDB Scandal, Ring Privacy - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people ## About this episode Attorney General William Barr declined to testify before the House Judiciary Committee after Chairman Jerry Nadler insisted on using staff attorneys for questioning. Republican committee members labeled the resulting session a kangaroo court as MSNBC and CNN broke away from live coverage to provide real-time fact-checking. The standoff highlights a deepening rift between the Department of Justice and House Democrats over the Mueller report's findings. Senators Richard Blumenthal and Sheldon Whitehouse challenged Barr on his refusal to recuse himself from spinoff investigations and his use of the word spying to describe surveillance of the 2016 Trump campaign. Senator Dick Durbin questioned an ethics waiver Barr received regarding the 1MDB Malaysian money laundering case involving Goldman Sachs. Meanwhile, 2020 candidates Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar used their hearing time for performative questioning, while Joe Biden faced criticism for downplaying China as an economic competitor. In Venezuela, a failed coup attempt led by Juan Guaidó and Leopoldo López is being scrutinized for potential CIA involvement after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo claimed Nicolás Maduro was prepared to flee to Cuba. Internal friction at Fox News surfaced as Chris Wallace distinguished between news people and opinion people following the appointment of Paul Ryan to the board. The Church of Scientology cruise ship Freewinds remains under quarantine in St. Lucia due to a measles outbreak, sparking a media frenzy over a 1969 Brady Bunch episode. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down these stories through the value-for-value model. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/transcript.md. ### 1. William Barr, House Judiciary Committee Hearing Conflict (0:00–7:59) Attorney General William Barr declined to testify before the House Judiciary Committee following a dispute over the questioning format. Chairman Jerry Nadler insisted on using staff attorneys for questioning, a move Barr rejected in favor of direct questioning by members of Congress. Republican committee members characterized the proceedings as a "kangaroo court" during a chaotic session marked by procedural disagreements and gaveling. Keywords: [william barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-barr.md), [jerry nadler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-nadler.md), [house judiciary committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-judiciary-committee.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [mueller report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/1.md) ### 2. MSNBC, CNN Live Coverage Interruptions of Barr Hearing (8:00–12:03) Mainstream news outlets including MSNBC and CNN broke away from live coverage of the William Barr hearing to provide real-time fact-checking and commentary. Hosts Nicole Wallace and Brian Williams interrupted the broadcast to dispute Barr's characterization of the Mueller report, specifically regarding the term "collusion." This departure from traditional gavel-to-gavel coverage is noted as a shift in media intervention during live government proceedings. Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [nicole wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicole-wallace.md), [brian williams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-williams.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Richard Blumenthal, William Barr Exoneration Standard Debate (12:03–14:53) Senator Richard Blumenthal questioned Attorney General William Barr regarding the concept of "exoneration" within the Mueller report. Barr argued that the Department of Justice's role is to determine if a crime was committed based on sufficient evidence, rather than to provide a formal exoneration of the subject. The exchange highlighted the tension between legal standards in the criminal justice system and the political interpretation of the Special Counsel's findings. Keywords: [richard blumenthal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-blumenthal.md), [william barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-barr.md), [exoneration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exoneration.md), criminal justice system, [mueller report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Richard Blumenthal, William Barr Recusal Demands (14:54–16:52) Senator Richard Blumenthal pressed Attorney General William Barr on whether he would recuse himself from various spinoff investigations originating from the Mueller probe. Barr flatly refused the demand, stating he had not discussed the substance of those cases in a manner requiring recusal. The discussion centers on Democratic efforts to remove Barr from oversight of ongoing Department of Justice matters. Keywords: [richard blumenthal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-blumenthal.md), [william barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-barr.md), [recusal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recusal.md), spinoff cases, [ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Sheldon Whitehouse, William Barr Spying Definition Dispute (16:53–20:18) Senator Sheldon Whitehouse challenged Attorney General William Barr's use of the word "spying" to describe authorized Department of Justice investigative activities. Barr defended the term as a standard English word for covert intelligence collection, noting his background in the CIA where the term lacks a pejorative connotation. The debate focuses on whether the surveillance of the 2016 Trump campaign was "authorized and adequately predicated." Keywords: [sheldon whitehouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheldon-whitehouse.md), [william barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-barr.md), [spying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spying.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Dick Durbin, 1MDB Investigation Ethics Waiver (20:19–25:13) Senator Dick Durbin questioned William Barr regarding an ethics waiver he received to participate in the 1MDB Malaysian money laundering investigation. Durbin suggested a conflict of interest because Barr's former law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, represents Goldman Sachs in the matter. Barr clarified that the Criminal Division and career ethics officials requested he seek the waiver due to the investigation's importance, rather than Barr seeking it himself. Keywords: [dick durbin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dick-durbin.md), 1mdb, [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), kirkland and ellis, ethics waiver [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar Hearing Performance (25:15–27:20) The questioning styles of Senators Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar during the Barr hearing are analyzed as performative media displays for the 2020 election cycle. Harris is noted for her "yes or no" interrogation technique, while Klobuchar is described as using her time to promote legislative bills before pivoting to insulting questions. These interactions are characterized as a "sideshow" intended for political branding rather than information gathering. Keywords: [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [amy klobuchar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-klobuchar.md), [senate judiciary committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-judiciary-committee.md), questioning style, [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Chris Cuomo, Michael Mukasey Branch of Government Debate (27:21–33:57) CNN host Chris Cuomo engaged in a heated debate with former Attorney General Michael Mukasey regarding the independence of the Special Counsel. Cuomo suggested the Special Counsel functioned as a separate mechanism from the Department of Justice, while Mukasey corrected him, noting it remains within the Executive Branch. The segment also references Cuomo's past controversial claim that it is illegal for the public to read WikiLeaks documents. Keywords: [chris cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-cuomo.md), [michael mukasey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-mukasey.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [special counsel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-counsel.md), [executive branch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-branch.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Chris Cuomo, WikiLeaks Legal Claims Tangent (33:58–36:49) A discussion regarding Chris Cuomo's previous assertion that only the media can legally possess stolen WikiLeaks documents. This is compared to anecdotes about State Department officials avoiding public domain secrets to pass polygraph tests. The claim is dismissed as a misunderstanding of the law and a potential indication of media figures acting as "CIA shills." Keywords: [chris cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-cuomo.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [classified material](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/classified-material.md), media privilege [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Chris Wallace, Fox News Internal Rift (36:49–40:46) Fox News anchor Chris Wallace publicly distinguished between "news people" and "opinion people" at the network while discussing William Barr's March 27th letter. This internal friction is linked to the appointment of Paul Ryan to the Fox board and the "Disneyfication" of the brand. The segment notes that high ratings for opinion hosts like Tucker Carlson may not translate to advertising revenue due to brand safety concerns. Keywords: [chris wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-wallace.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [paul ryan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-ryan.md), [sean hannity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-hannity.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/10.md) ### 11. CNN Ratings Decline, International News Alternatives (40:47–42:19) CNN's primetime ratings reportedly dropped 26% in April, leading to a discussion on the quality of domestic news versus international alternatives. CNN International, Sky News, and RT are cited as more watchable options for viewers seeking information beyond the Mueller probe. The hosts suggest that domestic networks are failing to correct course despite declining viewership. Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), [cnn international](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn-international.md), [sky news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sky-news.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Podcast Industry, Media Erasure of No Agenda (42:20–44:29) The mainstream media and podcasting conferences are criticized for ignoring the history and contributions of the No Agenda show. Despite the show's longevity, hosts note they are never consulted for articles or books about the medium's evolution. The discussion covers the unionization of Gimlet Media and the "value for value" model as an alternative to failing advertising-based networks. Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [gimlet media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gimlet-media.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Mueller Report, Estimated Investigation Costs (44:30–46:02) Conflicting reports regarding the total cost of the Mueller investigation are discussed, with figures ranging from $20 million to over $50 million. The hosts propose standardizing the number at $33 million for their audience to propagate on social media. This is framed as a response to the lack of a definitive, transparent accounting of the Special Counsel's expenses. Keywords: [mueller report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md), investigation cost, [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), 33 million [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Spotify, Pandora Podcast Business Strategy (46:02–48:29) Spotify and Pandora's aggressive move into the podcasting space is analyzed as a necessity driven by the lack of profit in music streaming due to high royalty costs. By owning original podcast content, these platforms hope to increase revenue without paying external rights holders. The segment also touches on the pitfalls of video podcasting and the sustainability of creators on platforms like YouTube. Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [pandora](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandora.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [music royalties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-royalties.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Joe Biden, China Economic Competition Comments (48:31–50:10) 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden faced criticism for downplaying the economic threat posed by China, stating they are "not competition for us." During the remarks, Biden appeared to have a "senior moment" regarding Chinese geography. Critics point to the loss of American manufacturing jobs as evidence that China is a significant global competitor. Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), senior moment [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Hillary Clinton, Rachel Maddow China Interview (50:11–52:32) Hillary Clinton appeared on Rachel Maddow's program and sarcastically suggested that China should find Donald Trump's tax returns, mirroring Trump's 2016 comments about Russia and emails. The hosts interpret this appearance and her use of the term "hypothetical Democratic candidate" as a sign that she is preparing for a 2020 presidential run. The segment critiques the absurdity of inviting foreign powers into the electoral process. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [tax returns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-returns.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Jordan Klepper, Clinton Mueller Report Audiobook (52:32–57:24) Comedian Jordan Klepper appeared in a CBS This Morning segment with Bill and Hillary Clinton to discuss a satirical crowdfunding project for a Mueller report audiobook. The segment is viewed as a non-funny media vehicle to keep the Clintons in the public eye. The hosts suggest the ongoing Barr controversy provides the necessary opening for Hillary Clinton to re-enter the political arena. Keywords: jordan klepper, [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [mueller report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md), [cbs this morning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-this-morning.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Electoral College, Republic vs Democracy Debate (57:25–1:01:21) A montage of Democratic figures, including Hillary Clinton, calling for the abolition of the Electoral College prompts a discussion on the United States as a Republic. The hosts argue the Electoral College serves as "load balancing" to prevent high-population states like California from creating a "tyranny of the majority." The Brexit vote is used as an example of the flaws inherent in pure democratic systems. Keywords: [electoral college](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electoral-college.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [republic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republic.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Nancy Pelosi, London School of Economics Podcast (1:01:22–1:03:08) House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appeared on a London School of Economics podcast to discuss Brexit and its impact on the global economy. The hosts critique her focus on international issues while representing California. A brief mention is made of George W. Bush winning the presidency via the Electoral College despite losing the popular vote. Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [london school of economics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london-school-of-economics.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/19.md) ### 20. No Agenda, Episode 1133 Artwork Redaction (1:03:09–1:06:19) The hosts discuss the cover art for Episode 1133, created by CZM-137, which features a redacted version of the Mueller report claiming No Agenda is the best podcast. John Dvorak offers a critique of the "fuzzy" redaction marks compared to real-life documents. The segment also covers the "art generator" tool and the lack of effective discovery mechanisms in the podcast industry. Keywords: [cesium-137](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cesium-137.md), [mueller report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md), [redaction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/redaction.md), [podcast art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-art.md), [seo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seo.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Executive Producer Donations, AJ Van Steenbergen (1:06:20–1:12:35) Executive Producer AJ Van Steenbergen, a retired Marine, contributed $1,000 and shared stories regarding California's new Narcan regulations. Pharmacies are now required to sell Narcan alongside certain opioid prescriptions, sometimes creating cost barriers for patients. The segment also discusses the failures of single-payer healthcare systems in the Netherlands, where drug shortages are becoming common. Keywords: aj van steenbergen, [narcan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcan.md), [opioids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opioids.md), california regulations, [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Animus of Dogpatch, Global Travel Report (1:12:36–1:17:37) A $666.66 donation from "Animus of Dogpatch" includes a detailed report on international travel, deteriorating airline food, and the rebuilding of Notre Dame. The contributor claims there is a plan to turn the island of Notre Dame into a major tourist destination for the 2024 Olympics. The report also touches on Islamic scholars' social media engagement and public sentiment in Beijing. Keywords: animus of dogpatch, [notre dame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/notre-dame.md), [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), brenton tarrant, [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Homelessness Crisis, West Coast Urban Decay (1:17:38–1:21:11) A discussion on the worsening homelessness and drug addiction crisis in cities like Vancouver, Seattle, and Austin. The hosts attribute the decay to local district attorneys who allow camping on public land and fail to address open drug use. They argue that "affordable housing" promises are often used as political leverage for unrelated projects like soccer stadiums. Keywords: [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), [drug addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-addiction.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Listener Donations, Wedding Congratulations (1:21:11–1:25:27) An anonymous $333 donation from Ontario includes congratulations to Adam Curry on his upcoming wedding. The contributor requests "karma" for health and jobs while praising the show's media deconstruction. John Dvorak reflects on his past at PC Magazine and the value of the No Agenda community's support. Keywords: [tina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Sir Timothy, Baron of the Upper Peninsula (1:25:27–1:27:42) Sir Timothy of the No Fixed Title donated $201.01, reaching the $3,000 threshold to become the Baron of the Upper Peninsula in Michigan. He plans to assign honorary titles at a meetup in Flint. The hosts promote the "No Agenda Meetups" website as a successful community-driven discovery tool. Keywords: sir timothy, [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [flint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flint.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [barony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barony.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Michael Janosky, L. Ewing Donations (1:27:43–1:32:12) Michael Janosky and L. Ewing provided donations for "de-douching" and jobs karma. Ewing is currently refitting a sailboat in Mexico to sail around the world and requested "passage karma." The hosts discuss the technical process of posting the show and the importance of listener credits. Keywords: michael janosky, [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md), l. ewing, [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [sailboat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sailboat.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Esmeralda Gack, Loveline Podcast Plug (1:32:14–1:37:33) Esmeralda Gack from Wisconsin donated $200 toward her Damehood and requested a plug for "superfangiovanni.com," a site hosting classic Loveline podcast episodes. She also requested jobs karma for her husband in the electrical trade. The segment concludes the first round of executive producer credits for Episode 1134. Keywords: esmeralda gack, loveline, superfangiovanni, [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Scientology Cruise Ship, Measles Quarantine (1:37:49–1:42:06) A cruise ship owned by the Church of Scientology, the Freewinds, was quarantined in St. Lucia due to a measles outbreak. Health officials prevented 300 passengers and crew from disembarking after a female crew member was diagnosed. The hosts discuss the "fear-mongering" statistics provided by media outlets like CNBC regarding the virus's contagiousness. Keywords: church of scientology, st. lucia, [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md), sea org, [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/28.md) ### 29. NPR, Brady Bunch Measles Episode Controversy (1:42:07–1:45:12) NPR reported on the use of a 1969 Brady Bunch episode by anti-vaccination groups to suggest measles is a minor illness. Actress Maureen McCormick, who played Marcia Brady, expressed anger that her image was being used to promote anti-vaccine sentiments. The hosts critique NPR's framing and the media's focus on a decades-old sitcom episode. Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [brady bunch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brady-bunch.md), maureen mccormick, [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [anti-vaxxers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anti-vaxxers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/29.md) ### 30. HPV Vaccine, Fifth Disease Comparison (1:45:12–1:49:11) The hosts discuss their personal vaccination statuses and challenge "pro-vaxxers" to get the HPV vaccine before criticizing others. They also explore "Fifth Disease" (slap-cheek), a viral rash caused by Parvovirus B19, noting the lack of a human vaccine for it despite its similarity to measles. The discussion centers on the selective nature of vaccine mandates and public health priorities. Keywords: [hpv vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv-vaccine.md), fifth disease, parvo virus, [smallpox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smallpox.md), [shingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shingles.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Merck Earnings, MMR Vaccine Demand (1:49:11–1:53:28) Merck reported strong quarterly earnings, citing increased demand for the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine in the US and Europe. The hosts suggest that pharmaceutical companies benefit financially from measles outbreaks and the resulting public fear. They predict a future requirement for travelers to prove MMR vaccination status before entering the United States. Keywords: [merck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merck.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [eli lilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eli-lilly.md), [mmr vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmr-vaccine.md), [stock buybacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-buybacks.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Disease Transmission, Border Security Claims (1:53:30–1:55:21) A discussion on claims from right-wing talk radio that diseases like tuberculosis, measles, and leprosy are being brought into the US via illegal immigration from Mexico. The hosts explore the historical context of leper colonies and the curability of leprosy in the modern era. This segment links public health concerns to the ongoing border security debate. Keywords: [tuberculosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tuberculosis.md), leprosy, [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [illegal immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illegal-immigration.md), right-wing radio [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Venezuela Coup Attempt, CIA Involvement (1:55:21–2:00:13) The recent failed coup attempt in Venezuela led by Juan Guaidó is analyzed as a "botched" CIA operation. The hosts point to the use of brand-new uniforms, American equipment, and purple armbands as evidence of mercenary and intelligence involvement. They compare the failure to the Bay of Pigs and criticize the use of 1950s-era regime change tactics in the age of social media. Keywords: [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [juan guaido](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/juan-guaido.md), [nicolas maduro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-maduro.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Mike Pompeo, Wolf Blitzer Venezuela Interview (2:00:14–2:03:10) Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that Nicolás Maduro was prepared to flee to Cuba until Russia intervened. Pompeo characterized Russian and Cuban support for the Maduro regime as "unacceptable." The hosts express skepticism toward these claims, suggesting the administration is struggling to explain the lack of traction for the opposition. Keywords: [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md), [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [nicolas maduro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-maduro.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Leopoldo Lopez, Venezuelan Political History (2:03:11–2:06:33) Leopoldo López, a Harvard-educated politician, is identified as the real power behind Juan Guaidó. A 2014 report from Democracy Now is used to detail López's history with the "far right" and his family's alleged corruption involving Venezuela's oil company. The hosts argue the conflict is primarily about control over Venezuela's massive oil reserves and drug trafficking routes. Keywords: leopoldo lopez, [juan guaido](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/juan-guaido.md), [harvard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard.md), bolivarian revolution, [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/35.md) ### 36. White Helmets, Staged Chemical Attacks Report (2:06:34–2:09:03) A report presented to the United Nations claims that members of the White Helmets admitted to staging fake chemical attacks in Syria to provoke Western military intervention. The report, covered by One America News, alleges that civilians were paid to play dead and use toothpaste to simulate foaming at the mouth. The hosts call for the Academy to revoke the Oscar awarded to the White Helmets documentary. Keywords: [white helmets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-helmets.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), chemical attacks, [one america news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/one-america-news.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Associate Executive Producers, Jeffrey Breyer (2:09:05–2:12:49) Baron Ladekin, Abby Venski, and Jeffrey Breyer are thanked for their donations. Breyer's $102.38 contribution is noted for being doubled to account for the "Canadian peso" exchange rate. The hosts reiterate their policy of accepting $200 in local currency for associate executive producer status from Canada and Australia. Keywords: baron ladekin, abby venski, jeffrey breyer, [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [exchange rate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exchange-rate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Alberta Climate Tax, Vivian Krause Report (2:12:51–2:16:15) A donor from Alberta contributed his "climate leadership adjustment rebate" to the show, sparking a discussion on Canadian energy politics. Writer Vivian Krause is cited for providing proof that US foundations, including the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, are sponsoring environmental groups to "landlock" Alberta's oil. Newly elected Premier Jason Kenney has campaigned on eliminating these taxes and investigating foreign interference. Keywords: [alberta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alberta.md), [jason kenney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-kenney.md), climate tax, vivian krause, rockefeller brothers fund [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Dame Karma, Mainframe DBA Job Search (2:16:19–2:20:40) Dame Karma from Toronto requested jobs karma for her husband, a mainframe Database Administrator (DBA) who was recently made redundant. She also shared a success story regarding previous health karma helping her manage diabetes without medication. The segment includes a list of $50 donors and "de-douching" requests from the community. Keywords: dame karma, mainframe dba, [diabetes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diabetes.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/39.md) ### 40. No Agenda Meetups, May 2019 Schedule (2:20:41–2:23:52) The hosts review the upcoming No Agenda meetup schedule for May and June 2019, including events in Seattle, Baltimore, Flint, and Brussels. They encourage listeners to use the community-built "noagendameetups.com" to organize and find local gatherings. Birthday wishes are also extended to several producers and their family members. Keywords: [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [baltimore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baltimore.md), [flint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flint.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [oklahoma city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/40.md) ### 41. Dame Money Penny, Daming Ceremony (2:23:53–2:28:47) Kim Lewis Smith is knighted as "Dame Money Penny of the Frequently Annoyed" after contributing over $1,000. The ceremony includes a "Squirrel Mail" search for her original notes and a custom jingle featuring a goat scream. Her request for "barbecued oysters and Anchor Steam" at the virtual round table is honored. Keywords: dame money penny, [squirrel mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/squirrel-mail.md), anchor steam, reseda, spandau ballet [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/41.md) ### 42. License Plate Readers, Private Surveillance Data (2:28:48–2:32:13) An anonymous police officer provided information on the use of License Plate Readers (LPR) and the databases accessible to law enforcement. The discussion shifts to the rise of private LPR vendors who sell data to repossession companies and credit agencies. One host shares an anecdote about receiving a ticket at the Oakland Airport after his car was scanned by an automated system. Keywords: [license plate readers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/license-plate-readers.md), lpr, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [oakland airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland-airport.md), [repossession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/repossession.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/42.md) ### 43. Ring Doorbell, Law Enforcement Data Access (2:32:13–2:35:56) The privacy implications of Ring doorbell cameras are discussed, specifically the "open pipeline" of data provided to law enforcement agencies. The hosts debate the trade-off between security and surveillance, noting that criminals can also potentially exploit these streams. An anecdote is shared about a delivery driver refusing to ring a doorbell to avoid being recorded. Keywords: [ring doorbell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ring-doorbell.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [fedex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fedex.md), [law enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/43.md) ### 44. Extinction Rebellion, Debt Refusal Strategy (2:36:50–2:40:51) Extinction Rebellion activists in the UK are reportedly considering a "mass debt refusal" strategy, including mortgages and student loans, to pressure the government on climate change. Environment Secretary Michael Gove declined to declare a "climate emergency," leading to threats of further civil disobedience. The hosts mock the movement's reliance on "peer-reviewed climate science" and apocalyptic models. Keywords: [extinction rebellion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/extinction-rebellion.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [michael gove](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-gove.md), debt refusal, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/44.md) ### 45. Sunrise Movement, Chuck Schumer Protest (2:40:53–2:43:12) Activists with the Sunrise Movement protested at Senator Chuck Schumer's office, demanding he support the Green New Deal. A resident of Sunset Park, Brooklyn, cited the impact of Hurricane Sandy as the motivation for the protest. The hosts characterize the movement as a "monster created by the left" that is now disrupting commerce. Keywords: [sunrise movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sunrise-movement.md), [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [green new deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-new-deal.md), [brooklyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brooklyn.md), [hurricane sandy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-sandy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1134-opinion-people/chapter/45.md) ### 46. Beto O'Rourke, Climate Plan Cadence (2:43:12–2:46:06) Beto O'Rourke's $5 trillion climate plan is discussed, with the candidate calling for a transition to net-zero emissions by 2050. The hosts critique O'Rourke's changing speaking cadence, noting he no longer sounds like Barack Obama and now appears "nervous" and "robotic." They also mock his claim that the world has only 10 years left to address the climate crisis. 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