# Surf n Turf > World leaders gather in Buenos Aires for a G20 summit defined by a high-profile trade truce, a commercial flight for Angela Merkel, and the looming shadow of the UN Migration Compact. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1091 - **Published:** 2018-12-03 - **Length:** 2h 47m - **Topics:** [G20 Summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20-summit.md), Migration Compact, [Deutsche Bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-bank.md), [Fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [George H.W. Bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-h-w-bush.md), Trade Truce - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf ## About this episode The passing of George H.W. Bush has triggered a wave of media hagiography, obscuring his controversial history with the Iran-Contra affair and his presence in Dallas during the Kennedy assassination. As the world mourns, the G20 summit in Buenos Aires became a stage for high-stakes diplomacy, featuring a viral handshake between Vladimir Putin and Mohammed bin Salman that signaled defiance against Western critics of the Jamal Khashoggi killing. Meanwhile, Donald Trump and Xi Jinping secured a 90-day trade truce, with China agreeing to designate fentanyl as a controlled substance to help combat the American opioid crisis. Global tensions rise as the UN Global Compact for Migration approaches its signing date in Marrakesh, sparking warnings from MEP Janice Atkinson about the potential criminalization of migration criticism. In Europe, German Chancellor Angela Merkel was forced to take a commercial flight to the summit following a total communications failure on her government aircraft, while authorities in Frankfurt raided Deutsche Bank headquarters in a massive money laundering probe linked to the Panama Papers. Domestically, the cancellation of the Murphy Brown reboot and new allegations of sexual misconduct against Neil deGrasse Tyson highlight a shifting cultural and media landscape. Further investigations into Jeffrey Epstein have drawn legal scholar Alan Dershowitz into the spotlight, as the Miami Herald continues to peel back the layers of the 2008 plea deal. Adam Curry broadcasts this session from a hotel in Gary, Indiana, navigating the technical hurdles of a mobile rig while reflecting on the local legacy of the Jackson 5. The show explores the bizarre "theybie" parenting trend and the rise of "bulldozer parents" who deliver fast food directly to school lunchrooms. John C. Dvorak provides a technical breakdown of Gmail's aggressive filtering algorithms, while the hosts acknowledge the latest round of knights and executive producers joining the No Agenda Round Table. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/transcript.md. ### 1. Adam Curry Broadcasting from Gary, Indiana (0:00–3:58) Adam Curry broadcasts live from a hotel in Gary, Indiana, the hometown of the Jackson 5. He is in the region to attend a memorial service for his wife Tina's sister, Angie, which featured pizza, tacos, and Miller Lite. Curry describes his mobile podcasting rig, including the challenges of clamping a microphone stand to hotel desks. Keywords: [gary indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-indiana.md), jackson 5, [tina curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina-curry.md), memorial service, podcast setup [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/1.md) ### 2. George H.W. Bush Death and Media Hagiography (3:58–5:27) The passing of former President George H.W. Bush dominated the news cycle over the weekend, coinciding with the G20 summit. Critics argue that mainstream media coverage is focused on hagiography while ignoring controversial aspects of his career, such as his involvement in Iran-Contra and his presence in Dallas during the Kennedy assassination. Keywords: [george h.w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-h-w-bush.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [iran-contra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-contra.md), john f. kennedy assassination, [hagiography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hagiography.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/2.md) ### 3. UN Global Compact for Migration and Hate Speech Laws (5:27–9:35) The UN Global Compact for Migration, also known as the Marrakesh Agreement, is scheduled for signing on December 10th. While technically non-binding, the document serves as a legal framework for participating countries to enact new legislation. Objective 17 of the agreement raises concerns regarding the potential criminalization of migration criticism and the expansion of hate speech laws. Keywords: [marrakesh agreement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marrakesh-agreement.md), global compact for migration, [geert wilders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geert-wilders.md), [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Janice Atkinson Criticizes UN Migration Compact Impact (9:36–17:25) Janice Atkinson, an independent UK member of the European Parliament, warns that the UN Migration Compact will silence free speech and undermine border control. She cites high youth unemployment in Greece and Italy as reasons to oppose mass migration. The discussion references the Kalergi Plan, a theory suggesting a deliberate effort to change European demographics through immigration. Keywords: janice atkinson, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [unemployment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unemployment.md), kalergi plan [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Theresa May and Brexit Freedom of Movement Debate (17:26–23:21) Prime Minister Theresa May faces questioning regarding the end of "freedom of movement" following Brexit. May asserts that the UK will implement a skills-based immigration system rather than maintaining automatic rights for EU nationals. Critics argue this will deprive young British citizens of the ability to live and work across Europe, while May points to Article 53 regarding youth exchanges and research. Keywords: [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [freedom of movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-of-movement.md), erasmus, immigration rules [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/5.md) ### 6. European Travel Habits and Regional Isolation (23:22–26:55) A discussion on the irony of geographic proximity reveals that many Europeans living near major capitals like Paris or Berlin rarely visit them. This phenomenon is compared to residents of Port Angeles, Washington, who seldom take the ferry to Victoria, Canada. The observation suggests a universal tendency for people to remain within their immediate local regions despite easy access to international travel. Keywords: [travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel.md), [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), victoria canada, [port angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-angeles.md), [passports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passports.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Putin and Mohammed bin Salman G20 Handshake (26:57–30:39) Russian President Vladimir Putin and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman shared a high-profile, enthusiastic handshake at the G20 summit in Buenos Aires. Media outlets analyzed the interaction as a signal of defiance against Western criticism regarding the killing of Jamal Khashoggi. Claims are made that a viral photo of Donald Trump looking longingly at the pair was a misleading still frame taken out of context. Keywords: [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [mohammed bin salman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mohammed-bin-salman.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [jamal khashoggi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamal-khashoggi.md), [handshake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/handshake.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/7.md) ### 8. US-China Trade Truce and Fentanyl Regulation (30:40–33:48) Donald Trump and Xi Jinping reached a 90-day trade truce during the G20 summit, leading to a significant stock market rally. China agreed to designate fentanyl as a controlled substance, a major concession aimed at addressing the US opioid crisis. The agreement includes plans for China to purchase a substantial amount of American agricultural and industrial products to reduce the trade deficit. Keywords: [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), [trade war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-war.md), [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [south china morning post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-china-morning-post.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Angela Merkel Commercial Flight to G20 (33:48–35:47) German Chancellor Angela Merkel was forced to fly commercial to the G20 summit after her government plane suffered a serious communications system failure. Merkel traveled via a Lufthansa flight from Spain to Buenos Aires after her initial aircraft turned back over the Netherlands. Rumors circulated suggesting the plane may have been bugged, though technical failure remains the official explanation. Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [lufthansa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lufthansa.md), [buenos aires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buenos-aires.md), plane malfunction, [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/9.md) ### 10. G20 Summit Media Narrative and Trump (35:48–41:51) Media coverage of the G20 focused heavily on perceived "awkward moments" for President Trump, including his avoidance of Putin and bin Salman. Analysts discuss how the press framed Trump as isolated while other world leaders mingled. Additional speculation arose regarding whether Trump would be invited to George H.W. Bush's state funeral following past tensions with the Bush family. Keywords: [major garrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/major-garrett.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), state funeral, [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Deutsche Bank Money Laundering Raid and Trump (41:51–44:09) German authorities raided Deutsche Bank headquarters in Frankfurt as part of a money laundering investigation linked to the Panama Papers. Media reports, including those from Amy Goodman, attempted to link the raid to President Trump’s past loans from the bank. Critics argue that mentioning Trump in the context of the raid is a distraction from the actual targets of the money laundering probe. Keywords: [deutsche bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-bank.md), [money laundering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-laundering.md), [panama papers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panama-papers.md), [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md), [frankfurt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frankfurt.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Murphy Brown Reboot Cancellation and Political Bias (44:11–50:14) The reboot of the television series Murphy Brown has reportedly been canceled following poor ratings and heavy political themes. A specific scene depicting a journalist being beaten at a Trump rally is criticized as unrealistic and ideologically driven. The failure of the show is attributed to a lack of business acumen and an over-reliance on anti-Trump narratives that failed to attract a broad audience. Keywords: [murphy brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/murphy-brown.md), candace bergen, [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [les moonves](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/les-moonves.md), [television ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-ratings.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/12.md) ### 13. BuzzFeed Report on Putin Penthouse Claim (50:14–51:54) BuzzFeed News reported that the Trump Organization planned to offer a $50 million penthouse in a proposed Moscow Trump Tower to Vladimir Putin as a bribe. The claim suggests the unit was intended to entice other Russian oligarchs to purchase apartments in the building. Skeptics dismiss the story as a minor real estate marketing tactic rather than evidence of criminal collusion. Keywords: [buzzfeed news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buzzfeed-news.md), trump tower moscow, [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [penthouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/penthouse.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Michael Cohen Guilty Plea and The View Analysis (51:55–55:49) Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the timeline of the Trump Tower Moscow project. The hosts of The View discussed the legal implications, suggesting the deal violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution. There is ongoing speculation regarding whether Special Counsel Robert Mueller's final report will be released to the public or suppressed by Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker. Keywords: [michael cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-cohen.md), [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md), [emoluments clause](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emoluments-clause.md), [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), [matthew whitaker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matthew-whitaker.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Jerry Nadler and Jake Tapper Interview Analysis (55:50–1:05:05) CNN's Jake Tapper interviewed Congressman Jerry Nadler, the incoming Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, regarding the Michael Cohen investigation. Tapper challenged Nadler's assertions of a "corrupt business deal," noting that private business dealings by a candidate are not inherently illegal. The exchange highlighted the Democratic strategy for potential impeachment proceedings based on Trump's Russian business interests. Keywords: [jerry nadler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-nadler.md), [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [house judiciary committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-judiciary-committee.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/15.md) ### 16. No Agenda Art and Logo Guidelines (1:05:06–1:07:22) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the artwork for episode 1090, which parodies Al Gore's "24 Hours of Reality" logo. They remind listeners and artists that they no longer accept artwork featuring their own faces, as they grew tired of the repetitive imagery used during the show's early years. Keywords: [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [graphic design](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/graphic-design.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Executive Producer Credits and F-Cancer Karma (1:07:23–1:11:38) The hosts acknowledge top donors and executive producers, including Kevin Silverman and Sir Crash EMT. They grant "F-Cancer Karma" to several listeners and their family members, reporting that a previous recipient's MRI showed a tumor had disappeared. New titles are bestowed, including the Viscount of Luna and the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest. Keywords: kevin silverman, [crash emt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crash-emt.md), [thomas nussbaum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-nussbaum.md), [cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancer.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Email Marketing Tactics and Gmail Filtering (1:11:38–1:21:03) John C. Dvorak analyzes a significant drop in open rates for his newsletter, attributing the issue to Gmail's aggressive filtering algorithms. He shares technical tips for avoiding spam folders, such as avoiding all-caps in subject lines, minimizing exclamation marks, and never using the same link twice in a single email. The discussion emphasizes the risks of relying on free email services like Gmail for critical communications. Keywords: [mailchimp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mailchimp.md), [gmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gmail.md), [email marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/email-marketing.md), [spam filters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spam-filters.md), [newsletters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletters.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/18.md) ### 19. No Agenda Light for Low Bandwidth Travelers (1:21:04–1:25:21) A donor from Victoria, BC, describes using "No Agenda Light" to download episodes while hiking in remote areas of Tibet and Nepal. The service, hosted at glump.net, provides low-bitrate versions of the show for users with limited internet connectivity. The hosts credit the Australian listener community for originally inspiring the creation of low-bandwidth feeds over a decade ago. Keywords: [tibet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tibet.md), [nepal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nepal.md), [podbean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podbean.md), low bandwidth, glump.net [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Australian Accent Critique and Surf and Turf (1:25:28–1:29:59) Australian listeners provide feedback on John C. Dvorak's attempt at an Australian accent, specifically correcting his use of the word "shrimp." They explain that Australians eat "prawns" and that "shrimp" refers to small children or insects. Musician Chris Wilson contributes a song advising the hosts to simply order "surf and turf" to avoid sounding like "douchebag Yanks." Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), prawns, [shrimp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shrimp.md), outback steakhouse, [chris wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-wilson.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Anchorage Alaska Earthquake and Momentum Scale (1:30:00–1:33:58) A major earthquake struck Anchorage, Alaska, causing significant infrastructure damage and road collapses. The hosts discuss the transition from the Richter scale to the Moment Magnitude scale, which they argue is designed to make seismic events seem more severe. The history of the 1964 Alaska earthquake is referenced as the largest recorded event in the Northern Hemisphere. Keywords: [anchorage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anchorage.md), [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md), [earthquake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake.md), [richter scale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richter-scale.md), [ring of fire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ring-of-fire.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Sheryl Sandberg and George Soros Investigation (1:33:59–1:38:15) Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg is under scrutiny for requesting research on billionaire George Soros after he criticized the company. Facebook reportedly hired Definers Public Affairs to discredit critics by linking them to Soros. The discussion explores the complex optics of Jewish executives at Facebook investigating a Jewish donor, and how this complicates narratives regarding anti-Semitism. Keywords: [sheryl sandberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheryl-sandberg.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), definers public affairs, [anti-semitism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anti-semitism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Neil deGrasse Tyson Sexual Misconduct Allegations (1:38:16–1:43:19) Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson faces allegations of sexual misconduct from three women, including a rape accusation dating back to the 1980s. National Geographic and Fox have launched investigations into the claims. The hosts speculate that the timing of these allegations might be related to the valuation of media assets during the Disney-Fox acquisition. Keywords: [neil degrasse tyson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-degrasse-tyson.md), [sexual harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-harassment.md), [national geographic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-geographic.md), [fox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox.md), 21st century fox [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Jeffrey Epstein Investigation and Alan Dershowitz (1:43:20–1:47:55) The Miami Herald's ongoing investigation into Jeffrey Epstein has brought renewed attention to his 2008 plea deal. Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz has been accused by one of Epstein's victims of sexual misconduct, a claim he vehemently denies. The hosts suggest the focus on Dershowitz may be a "hit piece" motivated by his recent legal defenses of President Trump. Keywords: [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [alan dershowitz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alan-dershowitz.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [miami herald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-herald.md), [alex acosta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-acosta.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Clinton and Michelle Obama Live Nation Tours (1:47:55–1:52:54) Bill and Hillary Clinton are currently on a 13-city speaking tour produced by Live Nation, though reports indicate low ticket sales in some markets. In contrast, Michelle Obama’s "Becoming" book tour is described as a massive success with high-priced VIP packages and branded merchandise. The shift toward using major concert promoters like Live Nation marks a new era of celebrity-style political tours. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), live nation, [book tour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/book-tour.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Helicopter Parents and School Lunch Delivery (1:52:57–1:57:09) A listener shares an anecdote about "bulldozer parents" who frequently visit elementary school lunchrooms to bring fast food and pizza for their children. One school principal reported that parents dropped off over 3,600 non-essential items and lunches in a single year. This behavior is cited as an extreme example of modern over-parenting that undermines student independence. Keywords: [helicopter parents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/helicopter-parents.md), [school lunch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-lunch.md), [pizza delivery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pizza-delivery.md), [parenting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parenting.md), [middle school](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-school.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Gender Dysphoria and the James Younger Case (1:57:10–2:00:59) A high-profile custody battle in Texas involves a child named James whose mother claims he is a transgender girl named Luna. The father disputes this, noting the child only identifies as a girl when with the mother. A pediatrician discusses the concept of "gender mourning," where a parent’s desire for a child of a specific sex influences the child's perceived gender identity. Keywords: [gender dysphoria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-dysphoria.md), james younger, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [custody battle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/custody-battle.md), gender mourning [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/27.md) ### 28. The "Theybie" Trend and Gender Neutral Parenting (2:01:00–2:07:15) The "theybie" trend involves parents refusing to disclose their child's biological sex to allow the child to choose their gender later in life. Critics, including Dr. Michelle Cretella of the American College of Pediatricians, argue that sex is determined at conception and that teaching children otherwise is harmful. The term "theybie" is characterized as a form of virtue signaling within online communities. Keywords: theybies, [gender neutral](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-neutral.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [virtue signaling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virtue-signaling.md), [pediatrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pediatrics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Baby Boomer Negativity and Cultural Programming (2:07:17–2:09:03) The hosts reflect on the pervasive negativity and depression observed among their Baby Boomer peers. They contrast this with their own relative optimism, which they attribute to avoiding certain types of institutional "programming." John C. Dvorak notes that even as the "Cranky Geek," he finds many of his contemporaries to be far more cynical. Keywords: [baby boomers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baby-boomers.md), [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), [hippies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hippies.md), [optimism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/optimism.md), [depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/depression.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Knighting Ceremony and Donor Acknowledgments (2:09:04–2:17:05) Adam Curry clarifies a confusion regarding a listener he met in Chicago, Sir P Funk (or Puff Funk). The hosts acknowledge a long list of donors, including Ron Woodbury and Michael Conte. They discuss the "de-douching" process for new listeners who have finally contributed to the show's value-for-value model. Keywords: sir p funk, ron woodbury, michael conte, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Playground De-Douching and School Scams (2:17:05–2:18:50) A humorous listener letter claims that children at an elementary school were caught "de-douching" and "knighting" their classmates in exchange for milk money. The school principal reportedly expressed concern over the playground activity. The hosts speculate whether the story is a creative joke by the listener's wife or a genuine instance of the show's culture spreading to a younger generation. Keywords: playground, [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), milk money, [elementary school](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elementary-school.md), [principal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/principal.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Sir Kim Muir Knighting and Value-for-Value (2:18:57–2:20:30) Kim Muir is knighted into the No Agenda Round Table for a donation of $1,000 or more. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, bestowing the title of Sir Kim Muir. They discuss the perks of the Round Table and the importance of the value-for-value model in sustaining the podcast without traditional advertising. Keywords: kim muir, [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md), red boys [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Digital Media Failures and Subscription Models (2:20:30–2:25:09) The Wall Street Journal reports that Verizon is struggling to monetize its digital media acquisitions, including AOL and Huffington Post. The hosts argue that traditional advertising models are failing online and that forced subscription models are unlikely to succeed. They contrast these failures with their own voluntary donation model, which relies on direct listener support rather than corporate ad revenue. 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Keywords: mic.com, bustle digital group, [layoffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layoffs.md), [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1091-surf-n-turf/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Al Gore's 24 Hours of Reality and Climate Policy (2:28:19–2:37:29) Al Gore is launching his eighth annual "24 Hours of Reality" broadcast to advocate for climate change policy. Gore links recent wildfires in California and hurricanes in the Atlantic to man-made global warming. The hosts criticize Gore's rhetoric, pointing out his "tells" during interviews and questioning the scientific validity of linking individual weather events to long-term climate trends. 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