# 11 years

> A decade of media deconstruction culminates in a look at the Austin water crisis, the Khashoggi investigation, and the rhetorical shift of the American nationalist movement.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1080
- **Published:** 2018-10-25
- **Length:** 3h 17m
- **Topics:** [Austin Water](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-water.md), [Pipe Bombs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipe-bombs.md), [Nationalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nationalism.md), [Khashoggi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/khashoggi.md), [Megyn Kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megyn-kelly.md), [Data Privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-privacy.md), [Beto O'Rourke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beto-o-rourke.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years

## About this episode

Austin Mayor Steve Adler faces mounting criticism as a citywide mandatory water boil notice enters its fourth day following historic flooding. The crisis, which has shuttered restaurants and disrupted the local economy, stems from silt-clogged purification systems in Lake Austin. Meanwhile, the FBI laboratory in Quantico is deconstructing crude PVC pipe bombs intercepted by the Secret Service before reaching high-profile targets including former CIA Director John Brennan and various Democratic leaders.

President Donald Trump explicitly identified as a nationalist during a Houston campaign rally, sparking a media firestorm that saw MSNBC commentators compare the term to historical dictators and racial slurs. In the Middle East, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is leveraging the forensic investigation into the death of Jamal Khashoggi to demand the extradition of Saudi operatives. Dutch MEP Marietje Schaake and German Chancellor Angela Merkel have responded by calling for an EU-wide arms embargo against Saudi Arabia, while CIA Director Gina Haspel reviewed alleged audio recordings of the incident in Turkey.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate eleven years of the value-for-value model, reflecting on the show's evolution from a short segment to a global media critique powerhouse. The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for producers Troy Thomas and Melody Fugazotto while debating the finer points of Iranian rice preparation versus Italian risotto techniques. The broadcast concludes with a look at Tim Cook’s recent Brussels speech targeting the data industrial complex and the weaponization of personal information.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Eleventh Anniversary, Show Evolution (0:00–2:22)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the eleventh anniversary of the No Agenda show, reflecting on its growth from a twenty-minute program to a three-hour twice-weekly broadcast. The hosts acknowledge the long-term support of their producers and mention a recent discussion on the Grimerica show regarding the podcast's evolution.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), eleventh anniversary, [grimerica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grimerica.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Austin Water Crisis, Mandatory Boil Notice (2:23–13:09)

Austin, Texas, implemented a mandatory water boil notice following heavy rains and flooding that caused silt to clog water purification systems. Mayor Steve Adler faced criticism for the city's handling of the crisis, which resulted in restaurant closures and economic disruption. Speculation suggests that the introduction of grass carp into Lake Austin may have removed vegetation that previously filtered silt during flood events.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [mayor adler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mayor-adler.md), water boil notice, silt, [coliform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coliform.md), [lake austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lake-austin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Twitter Interaction, Muting and Blocking Strategies (13:09–15:47)

A discussion regarding social media habits highlights the utility of the "mute conversation" feature on Twitter to avoid unproductive arguments. Strategies for managing followers and dealing with low-engagement accounts are examined, noting the psychological impact of maintaining a high follower count.

Keywords: [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), muting, [blocking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blocking.md), [jack dorsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-dorsey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Migrant Caravan, Media Production and Political Timing (15:48–18:57)

The migrant caravan moving through Mexico is analyzed as a potential media production with professional elements, noting the repetitive use of specific drone footage. Speculation arises regarding the timing of the caravan's movement in relation to the U.S. midterm elections and its utility as a political talking point for both parties.

Keywords: [migrant caravan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/migrant-caravan.md), [jorge ramos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jorge-ramos.md), [univision](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/univision.md), [gop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gop.md), [political strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-strategy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Suspicious Packages, Media Coverage of Bomb Threats (18:58–22:29)

A series of suspicious packages containing crude explosive devices were sent to prominent Democratic figures and CNN's New York bureau. While the media focused on CNN as a target, the package was specifically addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, who is a contributor at NBC/MSNBC. The devices, described as PVC pipe bombs with digital clocks, were intercepted by the Secret Service at off-site screening facilities.

Keywords: [pipe bombs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipe-bombs.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [debbie wasserman schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debbie-wasserman-schultz.md), [secret service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-service.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Donald Trump, National Unity Speech Analysis (22:29–28:29)

President Donald Trump delivered a speech calling for national unity and the cessation of political violence following the discovery of the mail bombs. Analysts deconstruct his rhetorical style, noting his use of "Greek chorus" persuasion techniques and his defensive posture regarding being compared to historical villains.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [political violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-violence.md), [persuasion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/persuasion.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [rhetoric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rhetoric.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/6.md)

### 7. FBI Investigation, Pipe Bomb Technical Details (28:32–31:41)

The FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, began deconstructing the intercepted mail bombs to trace the origin of components like PVC tubing and digital clocks. Investigators are searching for forensic evidence, including fingerprints and DNA, while technical experts question the functionality of the devices due to their crude construction.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [jeff pegues](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-pegues.md), [quantico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quantico.md), [dna evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-evidence.md), [pipe bombs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipe-bombs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Secret Service, Mail Screening Protocols (31:42–34:06)

The Secret Service utilizes off-site facilities to screen mail for high-profile protectees using x-rays, biosensors, and radiation detectors. This long-standing protocol, in place for over 30 years, ensures that suspicious devices are identified and handled by robots before reaching their intended recipients.

Keywords: [secret service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-service.md), mail screening, [x-ray](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/x-ray.md), biosensors, [robots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Trump Campaign Rhetoric, Media Responsibility (34:07–37:58)

During a rally, President Trump emphasized the importance of the upcoming midterm elections and criticized the media for fostering hostility. His delivery is compared to a comedian like Robin Williams practicing new material from a notepad, suggesting he is still refining his messaging for the current political climate.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [midterm elections](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midterm-elections.md), media hostility, [robin williams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robin-williams.md), [dana carvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dana-carvey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Fran Townsend, Bomb Investigation Commentary (37:59–42:31)

Former Homeland Security Advisor Fran Townsend provides analysis on the crude nature of the mail bombs, suggesting the perpetrator left a unique "signature" by not using standard online recipes. The discussion explores the possibility of the suspect being an amateur who made numerous mistakes, such as using incorrect addresses and misspellings.

Keywords: [fran townsend](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fran-townsend.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [pipe bombs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipe-bombs.md), [debbie wasserman schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debbie-wasserman-schultz.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/10.md)

### 11. US Postal Service, Stamp Prices and Uniforms (42:32–45:39)

A discussion on the United States Postal Service covers the rising cost of stamps and the unique requirement for the agency to pre-pay retirement benefits. Anecdotes from a local post office visit highlight issues with new untucked uniforms and the recommendation to stock up on "Forever" stamps before potential price hikes.

Keywords: [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), [stamps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stamps.md), elvis stamps, pension funding, postal uniforms

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Mike Pompeo, Immigration Policy and Sovereignty (45:39–49:15)

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo asserted that the United States will not allow the migrant caravan to enter the country illegally, urging participants to seek asylum in Mexico. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and media figures are reported to be traveling to the border to monitor the situation as a matter of national security.

Keywords: [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [asylum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asylum.md), refugee process, [kirstjen nielsen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kirstjen-nielsen.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Media Elitism, UN Refugee Commission Involvement (49:15–53:21)

Criticism is directed at media commentators for elitist attitudes regarding immigrant labor, specifically the suggestion that immigrants are needed for menial tasks. Furthermore, the UN High Commission for Refugees is identified as a supporting force behind the caravan, fueling concerns about globalist influence on national borders.

Keywords: jenny jardin, [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [unhcr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unhcr.md), [globalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalism.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Nationalism, Trump Houston Rally Rhetoric (53:22–56:33)

At a campaign rally in Houston, President Trump explicitly identified himself as a "nationalist," sparking a media firestorm. Outlets like Democracy Now! and various pundits debated the connotations of the word, often linking it to white supremacy or historical fascist regimes, while Trump defined it as prioritizing the interests of one's own country.

Keywords: [nationalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nationalism.md), [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md), [houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/houston.md), [america first](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/america-first.md), [globalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/14.md)

### 15. George Orwell, Definitions of Nationalism (56:34–58:59)

CNN's Chris Cuomo and Steve Cortez debate the definition of nationalism, with Cuomo invoking George Orwell to argue that the term carries inherent negative baggage. The discussion contrasts "American nationalism," based on shared constitutional ideals, with the racial purity ideologies of the Nazi party.

Keywords: [chris cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-cuomo.md), [george orwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-orwell.md), [nationalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nationalism.md), naziism, steve cortez

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/15.md)

### 16. MSNBC Panel, Trump and the "N-Word" (59:00–1:06:35)

An MSNBC panel led by Nicolle Wallace compared President Trump's use of the word "nationalist" to dictators like Adolf Hitler and Idi Amin. The segment features intense criticism of Trump's intelligence and historical knowledge, eventually culminating in a commentator referring to "nationalist" as the new "N-word" used to signal to a white, non-college-educated base.

Keywords: [nicole wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicole-wallace.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [adolf hitler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adolf-hitler.md), idi amin, dog whistles

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Megyn Kelly, Blackface Controversy and NBC Exit (1:06:36–1:13:52)

Megyn Kelly faced immediate backlash and potential cancellation of her NBC show after making comments questioning the sensitivity surrounding blackface in Halloween costumes. Despite multiple apologies, colleagues like Al Roker criticized her, and reports suggest a multi-million dollar settlement is being negotiated for her departure from the network.

Keywords: [megyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megyn-kelly.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [blackface](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackface.md), [al roker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-roker.md), [jeff zucker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-zucker.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Executive Producer Credits, Jobs Karma Requests (1:13:52–1:24:10)

The hosts read donation notes from executive producers, including Troy Thomas and Sir Craig Porter. The segment includes "jobs karma" rituals for producers facing employment uncertainty and a discussion about the history of Agnews Developmental Center land in California.

Keywords: troy thomas, [craig porter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/craig-porter.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), agnews hospital, [wells fargo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wells-fargo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Timothy Scott Crowe, Amazon and Whole Foods (1:24:11–1:28:26)

Producer Timothy Scott Crowe discusses network infrastructure risks related to climate change. The hosts transition into a discussion about Jeff Bezos, expressing a preference for local Texas grocery chains like HEB over Whole Foods, particularly during the Austin water crisis.

Keywords: [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [jeff bezos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-bezos.md), [whole foods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whole-foods.md), risotto, [heb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heb.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Al Gore, Global Warming Jingle Request (1:28:26–1:31:32)

A jingle request featuring Al Gore's "atomic bomb" rhetoric and Barack Obama's warnings is played. Producer Ryan Burgette from El Paso provides an update on local support for Beto O'Rourke and requests a title change to "Knight of the Sun City."

Keywords: [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [hiroshima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiroshima.md), [single malt scotch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/single-malt-scotch.md), [el paso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/el-paso.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Beto O'Rourke, Campaign Texting and Solar Solutions (1:31:33–1:35:29)

The hosts discuss the high-energy campaign of Beto O'Rourke in Texas, including personal anecdotes about receiving unsolicited campaign text messages. A producer offers a donation incentive for listeners who switch to solar energy through his company, Meraki Solar Solutions.

Keywords: [beto o'rourke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beto-o-rourke.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [solar energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solar-energy.md), [campaign finance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-finance.md), [travis county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travis-county.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Donald Silva, Optical Physics and Metaphysics (1:35:30–1:38:44)

Sir Donald Silva, an 82-year-old former optical physicist living in Hawaii, shares his interest in metaphysics and the work of David Icke. He describes the physical challenges of coastal erosion affecting his property and his recovery from a stroke.

Keywords: [hawaii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii.md), lomi lomi, [david icke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-icke.md), [reptiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reptiles.md), [erosion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erosion.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Knighting Ceremony, Culinary Tangents (1:38:46–1:47:01)

The hosts perform a knighthood ceremony for several producers while digressing into topics such as the Berkey water filter's popularity in Austin and the proper technique for cooking risotto. John Dvorak argues that French and Italian chefs do not understand rice as well as Iranians.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [gaddafi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaddafi.md), [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [berkey water filter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkey-water-filter.md), risotto

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Jamal Khashoggi, Turkish Geopolitics and Pipelines (1:47:03–1:53:20)

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has leveraged the investigation into the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi to increase his influence in the Middle East. The situation highlights Turkey's strategic role as a hub for Russian and Iranian energy pipelines into Europe, while Erdogan calls for the suspects to be tried in Turkish courts.

Keywords: [jamal khashoggi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamal-khashoggi.md), [recep tayyip erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recep-tayyip-erdogan.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [pipelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipelines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Jared Kushner, Van Jones Interview on Saudi Arabia (1:53:21–1:55:28)

Jared Kushner appeared on CNN for a rare interview with Van Jones to discuss the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia following the Khashoggi killing. Kushner emphasized the need to wait for facts while maintaining strategic interests, despite acknowledging the deceptive nature of Middle Eastern politics.

Keywords: [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [mbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mbs.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Marietje Schaake, EU Arms Embargo Proposals (1:55:28–1:58:34)

Dutch MEP Marietje Schaake and German Chancellor Angela Merkel have called for an EU-wide arms embargo against Saudi Arabia. The proposal includes potential sanctions under a Magnitsky-style framework, targeting the assets and travel privileges of Saudi officials involved in human rights violations.

Keywords: marietje schaake, [european parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-parliament.md), [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [arms embargo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-embargo.md), [magnitsky act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/magnitsky-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Mohammed bin Salman, Public Statement and CIA Involvement (1:58:35–2:01:59)

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) made his first public statement regarding the Khashoggi murder, calling it a "heinous crime" and vowing cooperation with Turkey. Meanwhile, CIA Director Gina Haspel traveled to Turkey to review evidence, including alleged audio recordings of the incident.

Keywords: [mbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mbs.md), [gina haspel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gina-haspel.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [riyadh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/riyadh.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Khashoggi Forensic Details, European Resolutions (2:02:00–2:06:32)

Reports from Istanbul suggest that forensic investigators found evidence related to Jamal Khashoggi in the garden of the Saudi Consul General's residence. Simultaneously, the European Parliament passed a resolution condemning Saudi Arabia's treatment of activists and calling for the release of prisoners like Raif Badawi.

Keywords: [forensic evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forensic-evidence.md), [dna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna.md), consul general, [european parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-parliament.md), raif badawi

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Donald Trump, "Worst Cover-Up" Commentary (2:06:33–2:12:15)

President Trump characterized the Saudi handling of the Khashoggi killing as the "worst cover-up in history," while Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the revocation of visas for the Saudi operatives involved. The hosts discuss the likelihood of MBS remaining in power by scapegoating the 15-man hit squad.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [cover-up](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cover-up.md), [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [visas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/visas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Amy Goodman, Mike Pence and "Claimed" Language (2:12:16–2:16:56)

The hosts deconstruct Amy Goodman's reporting on Democracy Now!, specifically her use of the word "claimed" when referring to Vice President Mike Pence's statements about Venezuelan funding of the migrant caravan. They argue this linguistic choice is a "dirty cheap trick" used to imply a speaker is lying without providing evidence.

Keywords: [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md), [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Producer Credits, Douchebag Callouts (2:16:57–2:27:00)

A lengthy segment dedicated to acknowledging producers who donated at the $111.11 level. It includes health updates, such as Robert Gusek's spinal fusion surgery, and "douchebag" callouts for non-donating relatives requested by active producers.

Keywords: jason denney, robert gusek, [spinal fusion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spinal-fusion.md), [douchebag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/douchebag.md), [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Value-for-Value Model, Show History (2:27:00–2:35:07)

Adam Curry and John Dvorak reminisce about the origins of the "value-for-value" funding model, which they adopted early in the show's history. They discuss the transition from the Mevio network to a listener-supported model and the various community-driven projects, like the "Gitmo list," that have sustained the show for 11 years.

Keywords: [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-history.md), [mevio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mevio.md), gitmo list, [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Birthday Announcements, Knighting Ceremony (2:35:09–2:39:15)

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for producers Troy Thomas, Thomas Wolfarth, Melody Fugazotto, and Brad Lafreniere. They also announce birthdays for community members, including cartoonist Mike Riley, and update the peerage status for several long-time supporters.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [mike riley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-riley.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Tim Cook, Privacy and Data Industrial Complex (2:39:15–2:43:38)

Apple CEO Tim Cook delivered a speech in Brussels criticizing the "data industrial complex" and the weaponization of personal information. Cook advocated for stronger privacy protections, warning that the stockpiling of personal data serves only to enrich companies while narrowing worldviews through algorithms.

Keywords: [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), data industrial complex

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Surveillance Tech, Connected Thermometers and Car Tracking (2:43:39–2:47:05)

A series of reports highlight invasive data collection practices, including Amazon Alexa patents for detecting illness via voice and Kinza connected thermometers selling fever data to pharmaceutical companies. Additionally, General Motors was found to be monitoring the radio listening habits of 90,000 drivers to sell data to advertisers.

Keywords: [alexa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexa.md), kinza, [general motors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-motors.md), [google news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-news.md), [data tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-tracking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Justin Trudeau, Canadian Carbon Tax Rebates (2:47:06–2:50:19)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced a federal carbon tax for Canadian provinces that refused to implement their own, promising that the revenue would be returned to citizens via rebates. Critics argue the plan is "completely idiotic," questioning how taxing fuel and then returning the money will effectively reduce climate change.

Keywords: [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [carbon tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-tax.md), [rebates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rebates.md), [fossil fuels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fossil-fuels.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Consumer Reports, Native Advertising in News (2:50:20–2:55:08)

The hosts analyze a CBS News segment featuring Consumer Reports' reliability survey as a potential "native ad" for Lexus and Toyota. They point out the suspicious framing of the story, which highlighted Lexus's top ranking while specifically slamming competitors like Volvo and Tesla.

Keywords: [consumer reports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consumer-reports.md), [lexus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lexus.md), [toyota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toyota.md), [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Israel-Congo Oil Trade, Ebola Concerns (2:55:08–2:57:47)

Tanker tracking data revealed a shipment of 850,000 barrels of crude oil from the Democratic Republic of Congo to Ashkelon, Israel. This unusual trade route bypasses traditional Middle Eastern sources, occurring amidst ongoing concerns regarding the Ebola outbreak in the Congo.

Keywords: [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [congo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congo.md), [crude oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crude-oil.md), ashkelon, [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Supergirl TV Show, Climate Change Propaganda (2:57:48–3:00:08)

A clip from the television show *Supergirl* is analyzed as blatant political propaganda aimed at children. The scene features a presidential spokesperson mocking those who doubt global warming, equating the belief to knowing that 2+2=4 and that the Earth is round.

Keywords: [supergirl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supergirl.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md), [programming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/programming.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Rosie O'Donnell, MSNBC Interview and "Trump Effect" (3:00:09–3:04:56)

Rosie O'Donnell appeared on MSNBC to discuss her visceral reaction to Donald Trump's presidency and his treatment of women like Stormy Daniels. The discussion introduced the concept of the "Trump Effect," claiming that his rhetoric has emboldened racists and misogynists to express their views publicly without the "sheets" of the KKK.

Keywords: [rosie o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rosie-o-donnell.md), [nicole wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicole-wallace.md), [kkk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kkk.md), [misogyny](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misogyny.md), [stormy daniels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stormy-daniels.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Vital Farms, Profanity in Advertising (3:04:58–3:09:02)

A commercial for Vital Farms pasture-raised eggs is criticized for its repetitive use of the word "bullshit" (partially bleeped). The hosts link this trend of "filthy speech" in mainstream advertising to a broader coarsening of culture and the influence of podcasting on language standards.

Keywords: vital farms, [eggs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eggs.md), [profanity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profanity.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), filthy speech movement

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Dianne Feinstein, 1994 Border Enforcement Stance (3:09:05–3:10:51)

A 1994 clip of Senator Dianne Feinstein shows her taking a hardline stance on border enforcement and the costs of illegal immigration to California's welfare and prison systems. The hosts contrast this historical position with current Democratic rhetoric, attributing the shift to "Orange Man Bad" sentiment.

Keywords: [dianne feinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dianne-feinstein.md), [illegal immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illegal-immigration.md), [medicaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicaid.md), border enforcement, [1994](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1994.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Show Outro, European Time Zone Discussion (3:10:52–3:17:00)

The hosts conclude the anniversary episode with a discussion on the European Union's proposal to let member states decide their own time zones. They sign off from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley, thanking their producers and preparing for the next broadcast.

Keywords: [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [daylight saving time](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daylight-saving-time.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1080-11-years/chapter/43.md)

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