# Double Header > A master of corporate satire breaks down the hypnotism of modern politics while a telecom pioneer explains why fiber optics are winning the war against copper. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1067 - **Published:** 2018-09-09 - **Length:** 2h 9m - **Topics:** [Scott Adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), Sonic Fiber, Trump Persuasion, GPON Technology, WhenHub, Blight Authority, [Spasmodic Dysphonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spasmodic-dysphonia.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header ## About this episode Dilbert creator Scott Adams reveals the neurological and political shifts that reshaped his career, including his recovery from focal dystonia and spasmodic dysphonia. Adams details his transition from a Pacific Bell employee to a global cartoonist, providing a candid look at his recent visit to the Oval Office and his analysis of Donald Trump through the lens of a trained hypnotist. The discussion explores the high personal cost of his public political stances and his new venture into the cryptocurrency space with the WhenHub startup. Sonic CEO Dane Jasper breaks down the infrastructure of the San Francisco Bay Area fiber rollout, explaining why aerial deployment on wooden utility poles remains more efficient than $500-per-foot underground construction. Jasper outlines the technical advantages of Gigabit Passive Optical Networking (GPON) over the fiber-to-the-node services offered by incumbents like AT&T. The conversation covers the rising costs of licensing content from Disney and ESPN, the shift toward cord-cutting among millennials, and the security risks of unpatched residential gateways. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak bond over shared Tourette's symptoms and the quirks of early internet history at Cisco. Dvorak prepares for a trip to Italy and the Large Hadron Collider while reflecting on the absurdity of corporate life captured in Adams' latest compilation, Cubicles That Make You Envy the Dead. The hosts acknowledge the local impact of Bill Pulte’s Blight Authority and the philanthropic focus of Salesforce founder Marc Benioff. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/transcript.md. ### 1. Podcast Introduction, John C. Dvorak Italy Trip (0:00–2:24) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1067 of No Agenda. Dvorak explains he is broadcasting from Northern Silicon Valley but will soon be in Italy for his sister's 25th wedding anniversary. The hosts preview a special episode featuring interviews with Scott Adams and Dane Jasper while Dvorak is traveling. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [lake como](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lake-como.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Scott Adams, Early Internet History and Cisco Investment (2:24–6:52) Scott Adams recalls his early career at Pacific Bell in 1993, where he demonstrated the World Wide Web to customers when only two websites existed. Adams describes a missed financial opportunity after a top engineer advised him to invest everything in Cisco. He reflects on the difficulty of holding stocks long-term even when the potential for growth is obvious. Keywords: [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [pacific bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [world wide web](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-wide-web.md), [smithsonian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smithsonian.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Dilbert Comic Strip, Corporate Inspiration and Syndication (6:52–10:58) Scott Adams explains how his experiences at a bank and a phone company inspired the universal corporate themes in the Dilbert comic strip. He attributes the success of the strip to applying MBA business techniques, such as listening to customer feedback via email to focus on workplace settings. Adams discusses the rarity of "mega cartoons" and advises modern artists to build an audience on the internet before seeking syndication. Keywords: [dilbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dilbert.md), [pacific bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md), [mba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mba.md), [syndication](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syndication.md), comic strips [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Scott Adams, Artistic Style and Absurdist Humor (10:59–13:25) Scott Adams discusses his artistic background, noting his mother was a landscape artist while his own skills were developed through "brute force" practice. He defines his humor as a combination of observational engineering and identifying cognitive blind spots in management. Adams agrees with the characterization of his work as absurdist, focusing on the irrational behaviors of smart people in office environments. Keywords: landscape artist, [engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/engineering.md), absurdist humor, cognitive blind spots, drawing [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Scott Adams, Pacific Bell Termination and Alice Character (13:25–17:41) Scott Adams clarifies the story of his departure from Pacific Bell, involving a coworker named Anita who served as the inspiration for the character Alice. While management initially kept him on for sales purposes, a new manager eventually asked him to leave during a budget reorganization. Adams notes that the CEO was surprised by his departure, but he left peacefully to focus on Dilbert. Keywords: [pacific bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md), [alice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alice.md), anita, corporate reorganization, [termination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/termination.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Focal Dystonia, Digital Drawing Transition and Recovery (17:42–22:00) Scott Adams details his struggle with focal dystonia, a neurological condition that caused spasms in his drawing hand starting around 2004. He explains how switching to a computer and stylus tricked his brain into not recognizing the activity as "drawing," allowing him to continue working. Through specific hand exercises, Adams claims to have remediated the problem, becoming a rare case in medical literature. Keywords: focal dystonia, [kaiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaiser.md), stylus, [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md), hand spasms [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Tourette's Syndrome, Adam Curry and Neat Freak Traits (22:00–23:42) The discussion shifts to Tourette's Syndrome, with the interviewer comparing Scott Adams' physical twitches to those of Adam Curry. They discuss the commonality of "neat freak" tendencies among those with minor forms of the condition. Adams humorously considers whether he can use the diagnosis as an excuse to swear at people. Keywords: [tourette's syndrome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-s-syndrome.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), twitches, [neat freak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neat-freak.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Spasmodic Dysphonia, Vocal Cord Surgery and Recovery (23:42–29:40) Scott Adams recounts losing his voice for three and a half years due to spasmodic dysphonia, a condition related to his earlier hand spasms. After failing to find relief through Botox, he discovered an experimental surgery performed by Dr. Gerald Burke at USC. The procedure involved rewiring nerves in his neck, requiring a lengthy recovery period to regain full speech fluency. Keywords: [spasmodic dysphonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spasmodic-dysphonia.md), [botox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/botox.md), [usc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usc.md), dr. gerald burke, [surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surgery.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Political Affiliation, Voting Philosophy and Jimmy Carter (29:40–31:11) Scott Adams describes his political evolution from a Democrat who voted for Jimmy Carter to an unaffiliated Independent. He explains his decision to stop voting entirely, citing a belief that he does not add to the "intelligence of the outcome." The interviewer shares a similar history of supporting Carter and George McGovern before changing views. Keywords: [republican](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican.md), [democrat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrat.md), [independent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independent.md), [jimmy carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-carter.md), [voting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Donald Trump, Persuasion Skills and Hypnotism (31:11–34:07) Scott Adams analyzes Donald Trump through the lens of a trained hypnotist, focusing on the president's mastery of persuasion tools. He argues that Trump is effective because he is "immune to shame" and uses techniques that bypass rational thinking. Adams suggests that people's inability to see these techniques leads to cognitive dissonance and strong emotional reactions. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [persuasion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/persuasion.md), [hypnotism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hypnotism.md), [win bigly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/win-bigly.md), [cognitive dissonance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cognitive-dissonance.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Visual Imagery, Norman Vincent Peale and Public Speaking (34:07–38:09) Scott Adams discusses the influence of Norman Vincent Peale on Donald Trump's "power of positive thinking" mindset. He breaks down specific persuasion tactics used by Trump, such as "talking past the sale" and using high-emotion visual imagery regarding the border wall. Adams praises Trump's ability to control large crowds and headlines through effective public speaking. Keywords: [norman vincent peale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norman-vincent-peale.md), the art of the deal, visual imagery, fear persuasion, [positive thinking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/positive-thinking.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Trump Apologist Label, Business Impact and Safety (38:11–41:14) Scott Adams reveals that his public support for Donald Trump's persuasion skills resulted in a 40% loss of income and the loss of 75% of his social circle. He explains that he no longer performs public speaking engagements because he feels it is no longer safe to be in front of large crowds. The interviewer notes a similar "mania" affecting podcast listenership. Keywords: [trump apologist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-apologist.md), income loss, [public speaking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-speaking.md), social circle, [safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safety.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Restaurant Investments, Legal Settlements and Vegetarianism (41:15–43:53) Scott Adams discusses his failed investments in the restaurant industry, citing predatory legal battles and poor timing. He signed a lease for a second location on September 11, 2001, just as the economy collapsed following the terrorist attacks. Adams also touches on his dietary habits, noting he is a pescatarian who avoids alcohol for health reasons. Keywords: [restaurants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/restaurants.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [legal settlements](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-settlements.md), [vegetarian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vegetarian.md), pescatarian [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Blight Authority, Bill Pulte and Urban Renewal (43:56–46:30) Scott Adams promotes the Blight Authority, a project founded by Bill Pulte aimed at clearing abandoned buildings in urban areas to reduce crime. He explains his role in publicizing the land availability and the potential for new development once the "blight" is bulldozed. Adams also briefly mentions his academic background as a valedictorian in a small graduating class. Keywords: blight authority, [bill pulte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-pulte.md), [urban renewal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-renewal.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [demolition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demolition.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Mike Pence, Vice Presidential Strategy and Media Attention (46:31–48:56) Scott Adams evaluates Mike Pence as an "ideal vice president" who serves as a boring, solid backup to Donald Trump's "multimedia circus." He argues that Pence lacks the personality to win a presidency on his own but complements Trump's strategy of capturing billions in free media. Adams notes that Trump found a weakness in the media model by being consistently interesting. Keywords: [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [win bigly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/win-bigly.md), [vice president](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vice-president.md), media attention, [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Oval Office Visit, Kellyanne Conway and Rachel Maddow (48:57–51:32) Scott Adams describes his recent visit to the Oval Office, where he met Donald Trump and found him to be highly charismatic and engaging. He defends Kellyanne Conway's skill and loyalty, questioning why her success as a female campaign manager is often ignored. Adams also offers praise for Rachel Maddow's talent and intelligence, despite disagreeing with her political views. Keywords: [oval office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oval-office.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [kellyanne conway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kellyanne-conway.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [win bigly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/win-bigly.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Silicon Valley Billionaires, Mark Benioff and Philanthropy (51:32–56:36) Scott Adams shares his observations on Silicon Valley billionaires, specifically highlighting a private meeting with Salesforce founder Mark Benioff. He describes Benioff's intense focus on corporate philanthropy and "intention." The discussion also touches on the firing of John Lasseter from Pixar and the importance of "meta quality control" figures in successful companies. Keywords: [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [mark benioff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-benioff.md), [salesforce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salesforce.md), [john lasseter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-lasseter.md), [billionaires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/billionaires.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Political Leanings, Fox News and Creative Imagination (56:36–59:59) Scott Adams explains why he prefers Fox News programs like The Five and The Greg Gutfeld Show over other media. He reveals a dislike for reading fiction, explaining that as a "professional creative," his own visual imagination is more interesting and less effort than reading a book. He posits that his ability to build stories in his head is an extraordinary human capability. Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [greg gutfeld](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-gutfeld.md), [game of thrones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/game-of-thrones.md), [fiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiction.md), imagination [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Technology Background, Apple Ecosystem and Michelin Restaurants (59:59–1:03:55) Scott Adams discusses his technical background as a low-level programmer in BASIC and his transition to being a "Mac head" for his creative work. He explains his preference for the Apple ecosystem over Google due to user interface design. Adams also mentions his lack of interest in cars or high-end Michelin-starred restaurants, preferring simple Italian dining. Keywords: [basic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/basic.md), [vax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vax.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [michelin star](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelin-star.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/19.md) ### 20. WhenHub Startup, Video Call Experts and Cryptocurrency (1:03:56–1:08:04) Scott Adams introduces his startup, WhenHub, and its new app "Interface," which functions as a platform for experts to charge for video calls. He describes the service as a way for consultants, medical professionals, or companions to monetize their time. The project includes a cryptocurrency token called WEN, though Adams admits he is not a blockchain expert and expects government control to eventually dominate the space. Keywords: whenhub, interface, [cryptocurrency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cryptocurrency.md), [ico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ico.md), [blockchain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blockchain.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Dilbert Compilations, Tourette's Banter and Donation Update (1:08:04–1:11:13) Scott Adams concludes the interview by mentioning his latest Dilbert compilation, "Cubicles That Make You Envy the Dead," and the origin of the Catbert character. Following the interview, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak joke about their shared Tourette's symptoms. They inform listeners that donations for this pre-taped episode will be acknowledged during the next live broadcast. Keywords: [dilbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dilbert.md), catbert, [tourette's syndrome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-s-syndrome.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Dane Jasper, Sonic Fiber to the Home Expansion (1:11:13–1:15:44) Dane Jasper, CEO of Sonic, discusses the rollout of gigabit fiber-to-the-home (FTTH) networks in the San Francisco Bay Area. He explains the $40 monthly pricing model and the inclusion of unlimited international calling and robocall blocking. The conversation compares Sonic's growth to other independent providers like Ting (2Cows) that are disrupting the traditional ISP market. Keywords: dane jasper, [sonic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sonic.md), fiber to the home, gigabit, 2cows [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Aerial Fiber Infrastructure, Utility Poles and Aesthetics (1:15:45–1:20:05) Dane Jasper describes the physical process of stringing fiber optic cables on existing wooden utility poles. He explains that Sonic uses lightweight dielectric cables lashed to stainless steel messenger wires, which are more efficient than old copper infrastructure. Jasper addresses community complaints about the "ugly" appearance of additional wires, noting that aerial deployment allows for faster maintenance than underground lines. Keywords: utility poles, aerial fiber, lashing wire, dielectric cable, [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Fiber Reliability, Squirrel Damage and Network Bottlenecks (1:20:06–1:25:20) Dane Jasper highlights the superior reliability of fiber over copper networks, which are susceptible to water incursion and rodent damage. He explains that fiber connections offer rock-solid low latency compared to variable cable connections. Jasper notes that with gigabit speeds, the "wide area network" is no longer the bottleneck, shifting technical issues to local Wi-Fi or outdated hardware. Keywords: [squirrels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/squirrels.md), [latency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/latency.md), gpon, gigabit ethernet, copper vs fiber [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Customer Service Philosophy, Local Call Centers and Duopolies (1:25:20–1:29:11) Dane Jasper emphasizes Sonic's commitment to local customer service, keeping all call centers and field staff in the San Francisco Bay Area. He criticizes the industry trend of using scripted, outsourced support, arguing that large monopolies benefit when customers are too frustrated to call. Jasper positions Sonic as a value-driven alternative focused on privacy, net neutrality, and technical integrity. Keywords: [customer service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customer-service.md), san francisco bay area, [outsourcing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outsourcing.md), duopoly, [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/25.md) ### 26. GPON Technology, Future 10-Gigabit Upgrades and Infrastructure Lifespan (1:29:12–1:35:18) Dane Jasper explains the technical details of Gigabit Passive Optical Networking (GPON), which splits a single fiber strand among 32 homes. He discusses the hardware used, including Optical Line Terminals (OLT) from vendors like Adtran and Nokia. Jasper notes that while current speeds are 1 gigabit, the underlying fiber infrastructure has a 50-year lifespan and can be upgraded to 10 or 40 gigabits by simply swapping the end-point electronics. Keywords: gpon, adtran, [nokia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia.md), xgs-pon, [fiber optics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiber-optics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Fiber to the Node vs Fiber to the Home (1:35:18–1:40:33) Dane Jasper clarifies the difference between true "fiber to the home" and the "fiber to the node" (FTTN) services offered by incumbents like AT&T. He explains that FTTN still relies on old copper wires for the final stretch, limiting speeds and reliability. Jasper also discusses Sonic's lack of data caps for residential use, though he notes that reselling the service or running high-traffic servers is prohibited under residential terms. Keywords: fiber to the node, vdsl2, [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), bandwidth caps, commercial use [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Asymmetric Connections, Cloud Backup and IPTV Strategy (1:40:35–1:44:57) Dane Jasper discusses the benefits of symmetric gigabit speeds for cloud backups and video uploads. He explains why Sonic chooses not to offer its own cloud storage or IPTV television service, preferring to let customers use specialized third-party apps like Netflix, Hulu, or YouTube TV. Jasper argues that the television industry is moving toward internet-based streaming, making traditional cable bundles obsolete. Keywords: upload speeds, [aws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aws.md), [dropbox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dropbox.md), [iptv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iptv.md), [cord cutting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cord-cutting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Television Content Costs, Bundle Discounts and Satellite Options (1:44:57–1:49:19) Dane Jasper explains the high costs of licensing television content from giants like Disney and ESPN, which makes it difficult for small ISPs to compete with cable incumbents. He notes that while Sonic encourages cord-cutting, they offer a Dish Network satellite bundle for the 10% of customers who still want a traditional TV experience. Jasper predicts that millennials will continue to drive the shift away from linear cable toward piecemeal streaming subscriptions. Keywords: [espn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espn.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [dish network](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dish-network.md), bundle discount, streaming apps [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Home Networking, Cat6 Cabling and Wi-Fi Reliability (1:49:20–1:53:09) The discussion covers internal home wiring, with Dane Jasper recommending Cat5e or Cat6 for most gigabit needs. He notes that while many consumers are moving toward unwired Wi-Fi setups for convenience, hard-wiring stationary devices like Rokus and desktop computers remains the most reliable option. Jasper suggests using wired access points to provide a stronger foundation for a home's wireless coverage. Keywords: cat5e, cat6, cat7, [ethernet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethernet.md), wi-fi repeaters [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Consumer Adoption, Technology Literacy and Cable Company Reputation (1:53:10–1:58:14) Dane Jasper reflects on the challenges of marketing fiber to non-technical consumers who may not understand the difference between various broadband technologies. He credits early adopters with spreading the word to neighbors about Sonic's superior performance. Jasper also notes that the poor reputation of major cable companies serves as a significant driver for customers looking to switch to independent providers. Keywords: early adopters, technology writing, [broadband](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadband.md), [monopoly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monopoly.md), [isp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isp.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Google Fiber Challenges, Construction Costs and Pole Rental (1:58:15–2:02:17) Dane Jasper speculates that Google Fiber slowed its expansion due to the high cost and difficulty of physical construction. He reveals that underground construction in San Francisco can cost nearly $500 per foot, leading Sonic to favor aerial deployment. Jasper explains the regulatory process of renting space on utility poles within public easements, which costs Sonic approximately $7 per pole annually. Keywords: [google fiber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-fiber.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), microtrenching, utility easement, pole attachment [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Fiber Installation Process, Managed Routers and Network Security (2:02:17–2:06:31) Dane Jasper describes the typical fiber installation process, involving an Optical Network Terminal (ONT) and a residential gateway. He encourages customers to use Sonic-supplied routers for better security patching and remote troubleshooting, citing recent threats like "VPN Filter." However, he acknowledges that advanced users may prefer to manage their own networks using tools like Raspberry Pi or custom firewalls. Keywords: ont, residential gateway, vpn filter, [network security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/network-security.md), [raspberry pi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raspberry-pi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Outro, Large Hadron Collider and Upcoming Live Show (2:06:31–2:09:35) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak wrap up the episode, thanking Scott Adams and Dane Jasper for the interviews. Dvorak mentions his upcoming plans to visit Lake Como and the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland. They announce that the next live show on Thursday will cover news regarding Kamala Harris and Sheryl Sandberg's involvement with Facebook. 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