# Going Vertical

> A disgraced Attorney General exits the stage while corporate payment scandals and human-like AI assistants signal a shift in the American political and technological landscape.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1032
- **Published:** 2018-05-11
- **Length:** 2h 56m
- **Topics:** Schneiderman resignation, [Michael Cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-cohen.md), Google Duplex, [Iran Deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-deal.md), Uber Air, Pollen bomb, [Nokia E71](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia-e71.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical

## About this episode

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman resigned following a New Yorker report by Ronan Farrow detailing allegations of physical abuse and non-consensual choking. The scandal exposes a stark contrast between Schneiderman’s public advocacy for women's rights and private misconduct. Meanwhile, Michael Cohen faces intense scrutiny over millions in corporate payments from AT&T and Novartis, while his legal adversary Michael Avenatti navigates questions regarding his own history as a Democratic operative.

President Trump welcomed three American hostages home from North Korea ahead of a planned Singapore summit with Kim Jong-un. The administration’s withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal has voided Boeing aircraft contracts and sparked criticism of John Kerry’s private diplomacy. In the tech sector, Google I/O unveiled Duplex AI for restaurant reservations and Android P digital well-being features, while Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi pitched an ambitious but skeptically received Uber Air taxi network. Environmental concerns rise as a severe pollen bomb hits the Eastern United States and new data links urban dog ownership to significant meat consumption impacts.

Adam Curry tests a new valve microphone with a massive power supply to enhance vocal clarity despite Skype compression. The broadcast explores the Nokia E71 as the ultimate digital detox device for those fleeing modern smartphone surveillance. Gina Brown is elevated to the rank of Dame as the roundtable deconstructs the No Plan B media script and the end of the century-long partnership between the Mormon Church and the Boy Scouts of America.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/transcript.md.

### 1. Technical Discussion, New Valve Microphone and Audio Quality (0:00–2:26)

A new valve microphone featuring a seven-pin XLR connection and a brick-sized power supply is tested for the broadcast. The audio quality is compared against the standard Heil PR-40, noting the differences in directionality and proximity effect. Despite the limitations of Skype compression, the new hardware provides a noticeable improvement in vocal clarity.

Keywords: valve microphone, tube mic, heil pr-40, [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [audio engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-engineering.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Eric Schneiderman Resignation, New York Attorney General Misconduct Allegations (2:26–11:01)

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman resigned following a report by Ronan Farrow in The New Yorker detailing allegations of physical abuse from four women. The allegations include non-consensual choking and hitting, which Schneiderman characterized as consensual role-playing. The report highlights the hypocrisy of Schneiderman’s public stance as a women's rights advocate while privately engaging in misogynistic abuse.

Keywords: [eric schneiderman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-schneiderman.md), [ronan farrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronan-farrow.md), [me too movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/me-too-movement.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [sexual assault](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-assault.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Michael Avenatti Background, Stormy Daniels Legal Strategy (11:01–15:06)

Attorney Michael Avenatti is scrutinized regarding his political background as a Democratic operative and his past work with Rahm Emanuel. His legal history includes an idea-theft lawsuit against Mark Burnett and Donald Trump related to The Apprentice. Concerns are raised about how Avenatti obtained suspicious activity reports (SARs) regarding Michael Cohen’s financial transactions.

Keywords: [michael avenatti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-avenatti.md), [stormy daniels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stormy-daniels.md), [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [fisa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisa.md), [mark burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-burnett.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Michael Cohen Financial Disclosures, Corporate Payments and Access Selling (15:07–26:15)

Financial records reveal that Michael Cohen received millions of dollars from corporations including Novartis, AT&T, and Columbus Nova through his firm, Essential Consultants. While companies claimed they sought insight into the Trump administration, reports suggest Cohen was selling access he could not ultimately deliver. Special Counsel Robert Mueller has reportedly questioned these companies regarding the nature of the payments.

Keywords: [michael cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-cohen.md), [novartis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/novartis.md), [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), columbus nova, [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/4.md)

### 5. North Korea Hostage Release, Singapore Summit Logistics (26:17–34:13)

President Trump and the First Lady welcomed three American hostages released from North Korea at a late-night ceremony in Washington D.C. Plans for a historic summit between Trump and Kim Jong-un are moving forward, with Singapore identified as the likely location. Discussions include the potential for North Korea to open its airspace to international commercial flights as part of a move toward tourism.

Keywords: [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [kim jong-un](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-jong-un.md), [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md), [singapore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/singapore.md), [hostages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hostages.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Iran Nuclear Deal Withdrawal, Boeing Contracts and John Kerry (34:14–40:23)

The United States withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal impacts multinational corporations, specifically Boeing, whose licenses to deliver aircraft are now considered void. Former Secretary of State John Kerry faces criticism for his continued involvement in Iranian diplomacy, with mentions of his family's personal ties to Iranian nationals. The lack of a formal treaty ratified by the Senate allowed for the unilateral exit by the current administration.

Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [ofac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ofac.md), [nuclear deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-deal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Pollen Season Intensity, Climate Change and Health Impacts (40:24–43:53)

A severe pollen season is affecting the Eastern and Midwestern United States, with high counts reported in Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Medical experts attribute the increased intensity and duration of the allergy season to warmer temperatures and longer growing periods caused by climate change. The "pollen bomb" phenomenon has led to increased reports of sinus infections and asthma triggers.

Keywords: [pollen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pollen.md), [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [allergies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/allergies.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [asthma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asthma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Amazon Live Shopping, Idea Theft and E-commerce Trends (43:56–46:56)

Amazon has launched a live video shopping platform reminiscent of QVC or HSN, featuring product demonstrations for pet supplies and other consumer goods. This move is noted as a realization of a pitch made to the company years prior regarding interactive video commerce. The platform integrates a product carousel directly into the video interface for immediate purchasing.

Keywords: [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [home shopping network](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/home-shopping-network.md), [qvc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qvc.md), amevio, [e-commerce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-commerce.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Dog Ownership Trends, Behavioral Issues and Environmental Impact (46:56–57:40)

The rise of "fur babies" among millennials is analyzed, focusing on the substitution of pets for children in urban environments. A report highlights that dogs account for approximately 25% of the environmental impact of meat consumption in the U.S. Additionally, the use of SSRIs in dogs is discussed, with warnings that these drugs can lower inhibitions and lead to increased aggression in pets.

Keywords: [dogs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dogs.md), [ssris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ssris.md), [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), [carbon emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-emissions.md), pet industry

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/9.md)

### 10. No Agenda Producer Donations, Executive Producer Credits (57:46–1:08:36)

The show acknowledges its executive and associate executive producers under the value-for-value model. Notable donations include a birthday celebration from Sir Kevin Dills and a knighthood quest from Phillip Veenstra. The segment highlights the high concentration of Eagle Scouts and Ham radio operators within the listener base.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [eagle scouts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eagle-scouts.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Google I/O Duplex Demo, AI Restaurant Reservations (1:08:36–1:12:36)

Google demonstrated its Duplex AI technology, which can make phone calls to restaurants and hair salons to book appointments using a human-like voice. Critics argue the technology is a "bullshit demo" designed to humanize AI, suggesting that direct API integration between booking systems would be more efficient than voice-simulated phone calls.

Keywords: google duplex, [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [google i/o](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-i-o.md), [api](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/api.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Android P Digital Well-being, Google Surveillance Features (1:12:37–1:24:08)

Google introduced "Digital Well-being" features in Android P, including a dashboard to track app usage and a "Shush" gesture that enters Do Not Disturb mode when the phone is flipped. These features are framed as tools to help users find balance, but analysts suggest they provide Google with even more granular data on user engagement and receptivity to marketing.

Keywords: android p, digital well-being, [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [data tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-tracking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Voice Search Monetization, Alexa for Business (1:24:08–1:31:33)

Google and Amazon face challenges in monetizing voice search because the medium lacks traditional visual ad inventory. Amazon's "Alexa for Business" initiative aims to integrate smart speakers into office environments for scheduling and supply ordering. The push for devices with screens is seen as a strategic move to reintroduce visual advertising into the voice-assistant ecosystem.

Keywords: [alexa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexa.md), voice search, [google home](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-home.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Off The Grid (OTG), Nokia E71 and Digital Privacy (1:31:34–1:44:45)

The Nokia E71 is identified as the premier "feature phone" for users seeking a digital detox while maintaining basic functionality like SMS and email. Unlike modern smartphones, the E71 lacks pervasive spyware and has a battery life that lasts a full week. The discussion covers the technical hurdles of using legacy hardware, including the shutdown of WhatsApp on the Symbian operating system.

Keywords: [nokia e71](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia-e71.md), [symbian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/symbian.md), [digital detox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-detox.md), [vpn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vpn.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/14.md)

### 15. NIH All of Us Program, DNA Database Privacy Concerns (1:44:45–1:49:32)

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) is promoting the "All of Us" research program, which seeks to collect DNA, blood, and urine samples from one million Americans. While Director Francis Collins assures the public that the data is anonymized and secure, skeptics point to the recent use of genealogical DNA to catch the Golden State Killer as a precedent for law enforcement accessing such databases.

Keywords: [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [dna testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-testing.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [golden state killer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/golden-state-killer.md), [genetics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/genetics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Uber Air Taxi Vision, Financial Instability and Aviation Realities (1:49:34–1:55:53)

Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi unveiled a vision for "Uber Air," a network of electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) taxis. Industry experts dismiss the project as a publicity stunt intended to attract investors, noting that Uber loses billions annually and that aircraft certification for urban environments typically takes over 15 years.

Keywords: uber air, dara khosrowshahi, [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), [flying cars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flying-cars.md), startup debt

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Delta Flight Emergency, Aging Aircraft Maintenance (1:55:54–1:59:40)

A Delta MD-90 flight in Denver underwent an emergency evacuation after smoke filled the cabin during taxiing. The smoke was caused by hydraulic fluid dripping onto a hot power unit. The incident highlights concerns regarding the maintenance of aging aircraft fleets, as the MD-90 model has been out of production for nearly two decades.

Keywords: [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), md-90, [denver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver.md), emergency evacuation, hydraulic fluid

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Simon Sinek on Dopamine, Technology Addiction (1:59:42–2:04:16)

Author Simon Sinek discusses the addictive nature of dopamine released by smartphone notifications, comparing it to alcohol and gambling. He argues that the rise in ADHD diagnoses is often a misdiagnosis of technology addiction. Sinek suggests that the constant need for digital "hits" is destroying attention spans and social presence.

Keywords: [simon sinek](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/simon-sinek.md), [dopamine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dopamine.md), [addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/addiction.md), [smartphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphones.md), [adhd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adhd.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/18.md)

### 19. TV Script Deconstruction, Elementary and Political Tropes (2:04:17–2:08:25)

The television show Elementary is analyzed for its use of political tropes, specifically the portrayal of "Christian Identity" movements and neo-Nazis as the primary villains in a plutonium theft plot. The script is criticized for equating American extremist groups with the Taliban, serving as a form of narrative misdirection common in modern procedural dramas.

Keywords: [elementary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elementary.md), [sherlock holmes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sherlock-holmes.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [neo-nazis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neo-nazis.md), [script writing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/script-writing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Mother's Day Donations, Listener Support Trends (2:08:30–2:16:14)

The show reviews its Mother's Day donation drive, noting a significant decrease in contributions compared to previous years. Producers acknowledge various donors who sent messages to their mothers and wives. The segment reflects on the "man overboard" trend and the challenges of maintaining listener support in the current media environment.

Keywords: [mother's day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-s-day.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [listener engagement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-engagement.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Dame Gina Knighting Ceremony, Tourette's and Dysgraphia (2:16:14–2:20:44)

Gina Brown is elevated to the rank of Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable for her significant financial support. Following the ceremony, a discussion on dysgraphia ensues, exploring the link between Tourette's Syndrome and difficulties with written language and handwriting.

Keywords: dame gina, [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [tourette's syndrome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-s-syndrome.md), dysgraphia, [handwriting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/handwriting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Australian Barber Shop Discrimination, Gender-Specific Spaces (2:20:44–2:26:00)

Barber shops in Australia are facing legal challenges and discrimination complaints from women demanding service in male-only spaces. Barbers argue they are not qualified or insured for female hair styling and that men are entitled to their own social spaces. The conflict highlights the tension between anti-discrimination laws and traditional gender-specific businesses.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [discrimination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discrimination.md), barber shop, [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), [gender](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/22.md)

### 23. April Ryan Comments, Melania Trump and Cultural Identity (2:26:01–2:28:12)

White House correspondent April Ryan faced criticism for claiming that First Lady Melania Trump is "not culturally American." The comments were made during a discussion about the First Lady's "Be Best" initiative against cyberbullying. Critics question the definition of cultural identity for naturalized citizens.

Keywords: [april ryan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/april-ryan.md), [melania trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melania-trump.md), urban radio network, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [cyberbullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyberbullying.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Media Rotation, No Plan B Catchphrase (2:28:12–2:29:48)

A new media trope is identified involving the phrase "No Plan B," used by various officials and news outlets regarding the Iran nuclear deal and other diplomatic efforts. The repetition of the phrase across different networks suggests a coordinated messaging strategy or a shared linguistic script among pundits.

Keywords: [plan b](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plan-b.md), [media tropes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-tropes.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), [nuclear deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-deal.md), [catchphrase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catchphrase.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Hawaii Volcanic Activity, Kilauea Eruption and Media Coverage (2:29:48–2:32:09)

The ongoing eruption of the Kilauea volcano in Hawaii has destroyed numerous homes in the Leilani Estates. Residents who previously fled wildfires in California find themselves facing lava flows in their new homes. The scale of the geological event is noted as being under-reported in mainstream media compared to political scandals.

Keywords: [hawaii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii.md), kilauea, leilani estates, [volcano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volcano.md), lava flow

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Mormon Church and Boy Scouts, Ending Century-Long Partnership (2:32:10–2:33:52)

The Mormon Church (LDS) announced it will end its 100-year relationship with the Boy Scouts of America by the end of 2019. The split follows the BSA's policy changes regarding inclusive membership. The church plans to launch its own global youth development program to replace the scouting curriculum.

Keywords: [mormon church](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mormon-church.md), [boy scouts of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boy-scouts-of-america.md), [lds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lds.md), youth programs, [atheism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atheism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Fact-Checking Industry, Daily Caller and Poynter Institute (2:33:53–2:40:58)

The Daily Caller's "Check Your Fact" program has joined the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) at the Poynter Institute. This move allows the organization to participate in Facebook and Google's third-party fact-checking initiatives. The discussion critiques the "Ministry of Truth" nature of centralized fact-checking and the decline of in-house verification in traditional journalism.

Keywords: [daily caller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-caller.md), [poynter institute](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poynter-institute.md), [fact-checking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fact-checking.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Crowds on Demand, Astroturfing and Paid Protesters (2:40:58–2:45:58)

The company "Crowds on Demand" is highlighted for providing paid actors to attend city council meetings and protests, a practice known as astroturfing. Reports from New Orleans indicate that actors were paid to support a new power plant. The company openly advertises services including paparazzi, adoring fans, and coordinated lobbying efforts.

Keywords: crowds on demand, [astroturfing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/astroturfing.md), [paid protesters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paid-protesters.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md), pr stunts

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Patrick Little, California GOP and Neo-Nazi Candidate (2:45:59–2:49:05)

Patrick Little, a self-proclaimed neo-Nazi running for the U.S. Senate in California, was ejected from the state's Republican convention. Despite his extremist views, polls showed him in second place behind Dianne Feinstein. Analysts suggest his candidacy may be a "dirty trick" or performance intended to humiliate the Republican Party.

Keywords: patrick little, california gop, [dianne feinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dianne-feinstein.md), [anti-semitism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anti-semitism.md), [election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Show Outro, Final Credits and Musical Mix (2:49:05–2:56:03)

The broadcast concludes with final sign-offs from Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. A musical mix featuring Kanye West, Simon Sinek, and various news clips is played. The hosts remind listeners of the upcoming Mother's Day show and the value-for-value support model.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md), [podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast.md), [outro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outro.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1032-going-vertical/chapter/30.md)

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