# Undercount of Color

> A controversial census shift threatens California funding while Tesla faces fresh scrutiny over autonomous safety and Facebook grapples with a new fair housing lawsuit.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1020
- **Published:** 2018-03-29
- **Length:** 2h 57m
- **Topics:** Census 2020, Tesla Autopilot, [Cambridge Analytica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cambridge-analytica.md), Petroyuan, Facebook Privacy, Roseanne Revival
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color

## About this episode

The Trump administration faces immediate legal challenges from California and other states following the decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census. Critics including Ari Berman of Mother Jones claim the move is a calculated effort at voter suppression designed to intimidate immigrant communities and strip federal funding from diverse districts. The debate centers on whether the constitutional mandate to count the total population is being weaponized to shift congressional apportionment away from Democratic strongholds.

In the tech sector, investigators from the NTSB and CHP are probing a fatal Tesla Model X crash in San Mateo involving Apple employee Walter Wong, whose family alleges the Autopilot system previously malfunctioned at the same location. Meanwhile, whistleblower Christopher Wylie testified before the British Parliament regarding Cambridge Analytica and its data harvesting during the Brexit and 2016 US election cycles. These events coincide with a massive cyber attack on the city of Atlanta and reports that the FBI employed the father of the Pulse nightclub shooter, Sadiq Mateen, as a confidential informant for over a decade.

Cultural friction peaks as Heineken pulls a light beer commercial following accusations of racism from Chance the Rapper, while the Roseanne revival on ABC breaks ratings records by targeting the pro-Trump working class. John Dvorak shares his discovery of vintage California Zephyr memorabilia in a 1970s sideboard, and the show honors Kaya with a formal knighting ceremony as the Knight of the Five Eyes in Orbit.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/transcript.md.

### 1. John Dvorak, Antique Sideboard Discoveries (0:00–4:05)

John Dvorak describes cleaning out a large British sideboard from the 1970s and discovering a collection of vintage items. Among the finds are an original California Zephyr train brochure and memorabilia from the Oakland Oaks baseball team. The discussion includes a comparison to the television show Pawn Stars and Dvorak's plan to scan and archive the documents online.

Keywords: [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md), [california zephyr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california-zephyr.md), oakland oaks, pawn stars, [antiques](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antiques.md), [collectibles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/collectibles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Apple Podcast App, Hashtag Title Glitches (4:06–6:18)

Technical issues with the Apple podcast app caused crashes for users attempting to listen to episode 1019. Speculation arises that including a hashtag in the episode title, "Delete the Bag," may have triggered a coding error where the software interpreted the title as a comment. Similar issues have been reported by other podcasters involving various grammatical characters in RSS feeds.

Keywords: [apple podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-podcasts.md), [rss feed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss-feed.md), [hashtags](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hashtags.md), [technical glitch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-glitch.md), [iphone apps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-apps.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Tesla Model X, Fatal Autopilot Crash Investigation (6:20–12:49)

Investigators from the NTSB and CHP are examining a fatal Tesla Model X crash on Highway 101 in San Mateo involving Apple employee Walter Wong. The victim's family claims he previously complained about the car swerving toward the specific barrier where the accident occurred. Tesla released data defending the safety of the stretch of road, while critics point to confusing road markings and the dangers of over-reliance on autonomous algorithms.

Keywords: [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [autopilot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autopilot.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), walter wong, highway 101

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Autonomous Vehicle Safety, Arizona Uber Fatality (12:50–18:01)

A report on a fatal accident in Arizona involving an autonomous Uber vehicle highlights the technical challenges of self-driving cars. The discussion covers the "95-5 rule," suggesting that while the first 95% of autonomous technology is easy to achieve, the final 5% involving complex human variables remains elusive. Concerns are raised about the jerky nature of the braking systems and the failure of sensors to detect pedestrians in dark or cluttered environments.

Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [waymo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/waymo.md), [autonomous vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autonomous-vehicles.md), [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [pedestrian safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pedestrian-safety.md), [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/4.md)

### 5. AI Vulnerabilities, Stop Sign Vandalism Research (18:02–20:18)

Research into tricking AI systems reveals that simple stickers on stop signs can cause autonomous vehicles to misidentify them as speed limit signs. This vulnerability poses a significant risk for the future of autonomous trucking, as vandals or disgruntled workers could easily confuse vehicle sensors. The hosts argue that these edge cases prove the technology is not yet ready for widespread deployment.

Keywords: [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [computer vision](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-vision.md), [vandalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vandalism.md), [trucking industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trucking-industry.md), optical character recognition

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Elon Musk, Hair Transplant Speculation (20:19–23:00)

The hosts discuss rumors regarding Elon Musk's appearance, specifically speculating that he wears a toupee or has undergone hair transplants. They reference early photos from Musk's time at PayPal showing significant hair loss compared to his current look. The conversation touches on the importance of image for tech CEOs and the existence of websites dedicated to tracking celebrity hair procedures.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), hair transplants, [celebrity gossip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-gossip.md), [aesthetics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aesthetics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Electric Taxi Protests, Amsterdam Battery Radiation Fears (23:01–25:27)

Taxi drivers in Amsterdam are protesting a 2020 mandate that will require all cabs to be electric. Drivers express health concerns regarding long-term exposure to battery radiation, with some fearing it could lead to impotence. Additionally, the transition poses logistical challenges for drivers who prefer traditional Mercedes diesel vehicles and worry about the reliability of the charging infrastructure during power outages.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), [taxi drivers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxi-drivers.md), [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md), [impotence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impotence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Cyber Attacks, Atlanta and Boeing Ransomware (25:27–29:06)

The city of Atlanta and aerospace giant Boeing have both been targeted by significant cyber attacks. In Atlanta, hackers froze municipal systems and demanded payment, disrupting bill payments and court access. Boeing officials downplayed the impact on jetliner production, though internal memos suggested the virus was spreading rapidly through manufacturing tools. The hosts question the lack of robust security measures at high-profile organizations.

Keywords: [atlanta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlanta.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), wannacry, [ransomware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ransomware.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Microsoft Terms of Service, Offensive Language Bans (29:07–33:08)

Microsoft updated its code of conduct to prohibit offensive language and fraudulent activity across its services, including Xbox and potentially Skype. The hosts discuss the implications for free speech and the possibility of targeted bans. The segment also touches on Apple's recent focus on the education sector with iPads, leading to speculation that Apple may eventually spin off the Macintosh division to focus entirely on mobile devices.

Keywords: [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [xbox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xbox.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [terms of service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terms-of-service.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), apple education

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Christopher Wylie, Cambridge Analytica Testimony (33:09–39:23)

Whistleblower Christopher Wylie testified before the British Parliament regarding Cambridge Analytica's role in the Brexit vote and the 2016 US election. Wylie detailed his year-long collaboration with The Guardian and the New York Times to expose the company's data harvesting practices. The hosts analyze Wylie's background and suggest his emergence is part of a coordinated media effort against the Trump administration.

Keywords: [christopher wylie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christopher-wylie.md), [cambridge analytica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cambridge-analytica.md), [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [the guardian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-guardian.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Facebook Data Privacy, Millennial User Sentiment (39:24–42:48)

Despite the Cambridge Analytica scandal, many millennial users appear indifferent to deleting their Facebook accounts. A host shares an anecdote about his daughter's refusal to leave the platform, noting that even deleted data sometimes remains accessible or is missing from user archives. The discussion highlights the pervasive nature of location tracking on smartphones, which continues even when specific settings are disabled.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [data privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-privacy.md), [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), [location tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/location-tracking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Ad Blockers, Network Monetization Challenges (42:49–47:05)

The hosts propose a "Blockr" product that would scramble GPS tracking data to protect user privacy. They discuss Adobe's findings that 28% of website traffic is non-human, driven by the Internet of Things and automated microservices. The conversation concludes that monetizing the network through advertising is becoming increasingly difficult as bot traffic rises and users resist tracking.

Keywords: [ad blockers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ad-blockers.md), [gps tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gps-tracking.md), [adobe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adobe.md), [flash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flash.md), [internet of things](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-of-things.md), [microservices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microservices.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Tim Cook, Apple Privacy Policy Stance (47:06–49:42)

Apple CEO Tim Cook emphasized the company's commitment to user privacy during a Recode interview, contrasting Apple's curated App Store model with Facebook's data-driven approach. Cook argued that Apple acts as a "corner store" that polices content to protect children and maintain high standards. The hosts suggest that while Cook is currently taking a high ground, Apple will eventually face its own data crisis.

Keywords: [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [app store](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/app-store.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [recode](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recode.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Roseanne Barr, ABC Sitcom Revival Ratings (49:42–54:38)

The revival of the Roseanne sitcom on ABC achieved massive ratings, particularly among younger audiences. The hosts attribute the success to the show's depiction of a pro-Trump working-class family, which resonates with viewers who feel ignored by mainstream Hollywood. They compare the situation to the cancellation of Tim Allen's show and discuss the internal friction between Roseanne Barr and her reportedly liberal writing staff.

Keywords: [roseanne barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roseanne-barr.md), [abc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc.md), [television ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-ratings.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), [tim allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-allen.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Fertility Clinic Failure, Brazil Sperm Demand (54:39–57:33)

A fertility clinic in Cleveland, Ohio, reported a catastrophic equipment failure that resulted in the loss of 4,000 frozen eggs and embryos. The failure was attributed to a malfunctioning liquid nitrogen refill system and a disabled remote alarm. Separately, the hosts discuss a report from the Wall Street Journal regarding a surge in demand for American sperm in Brazil, where buyers are paying high premiums for specific physical traits.

Keywords: [cleveland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cleveland.md), fertility clinic, [embryos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/embryos.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), sperm bank, university hospitals

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/15.md)

### 16. H&M Overstock, Burning Clothes for Power (57:33–59:22)

Swedish fashion retailer H&M is dealing with a multi-billion dollar surplus of unsold clothing. Rather than discounting the items or donating them to the homeless, the company is sending the overstock to a Swedish power plant to be burned as a replacement for coal. The hosts discuss the retail strategy and the environmental implications of using fashion waste as fuel.

Keywords: h&m, [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md), [overstock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/overstock.md), [renewable energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/renewable-energy.md), [fashion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fashion.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Slingshot Technology, YouTube Channel Trends (59:25–1:01:41)

Following a discussion on the potential outlawing of slingshots, the hosts explore the world of high-tech slingshot hobbyists on YouTube. They reference a popular channel featuring a creator with a distinct laugh—likely Joerg Sprave—who builds elaborate and powerful slingshot mechanisms. The segment highlights the surprising complexity and community surrounding modern slingshot design.

Keywords: [slingshots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slingshots.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), horsehead businessman, [denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denmark.md), [hobbyists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hobbyists.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Jupiter Broadcasting, Podcast Plagiarism Allegations (1:01:42–1:06:05)

A donor's note sparks a discussion about Chris Fisher and Jupiter Broadcasting's "Unfiltered" show. The hosts accuse the program of copying the No Agenda format and using their clips without attribution. They criticize the lack of creativity in the tech podcasting space and compare Fisher's operation to Leo Laporte's network, noting the trend of tech experts pivoting to political commentary.

Keywords: [jupiter broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jupiter-broadcasting.md), chris fisher, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [linux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linux.md), [intellectual property](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intellectual-property.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/18.md)

### 19. No Agenda, Donation Segment and Knighting (1:06:06–1:10:23)

The hosts conduct a "Value for Value" segment, thanking high-tier donors and performing a knighting ceremony for Kaya. The discussion includes banter about "cold brew" coffee being a scam and requests for specific show jingles, including "Magical Shapeshifting Juice" and "Mac and Cheese." They acknowledge donors from Norway and the Pacific Northwest, maintaining the show's community-funded model.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [knighting ceremony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting-ceremony.md), [cold brew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cold-brew.md), [raven](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raven.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/19.md)

### 20. De-Douching, Listener Feedback and Career Changes (1:10:23–1:14:46)

A series of first-time donors share personal stories, including one listener moving to Silicon Valley for a career change. The hosts perform "de-douching" rituals for new contributors and address a mild criticism from an Austin-based artist, Sandra Langston, regarding the terminology. Langston promotes her upcoming art show at the Davis Gallery, illustrating the interaction between the hosts and their "producers."

Keywords: [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [sandra langston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandra-langston.md), art gallery

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Melissa Talon, Homeschooling and Independent Music (1:14:46–1:18:44)

Associate Executive Producer Melissa Talon, a composer and musician from Australia, shares her experience transitioning to homeschooling her children. She discusses her move from major labels like EMI and Universal to becoming an independent artist. The hosts praise her independence and the "Value for Value" model, while Talon promises to send a copy of her upcoming album.

Keywords: melissa talon, [homeschooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeschooling.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), independent music, [emi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/21.md)

### 22. No Agenda, Sunday Show Promotion (1:18:45–1:20:57)

The hosts wrap up the executive producer segment, emphasizing that the show is entirely funded by the audience without corporate ads. They encourage listeners to "propagate the formula" by sharing the show with others. A reminder is given for the upcoming Sunday broadcast, reinforcing the show's identity as a listener-produced media deconstruction platform.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [sunday show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sunday-show.md), [propagation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propagation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Heineken, Racist Commercial Controversy (1:20:58–1:23:39)

Heineken pulled a commercial for its light beer after it was labeled racist by Chance the Rapper and other critics. The ad featured a bartender sliding a beer past several Black people to a lighter-skinned woman, accompanied by the slogan "Sometimes lighter is better." While the company apologized, the hosts debate whether the racial subtext was intentional or a marketing oversight.

Keywords: [heineken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heineken.md), [chance the rapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chance-the-rapper.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), light beer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Karenna Gore, Pipeline Protest Ruling (1:23:40–1:26:03)

Karenna Gore, daughter of former Vice President Al Gore, was among 13 protesters found "not responsible" by a Massachusetts judge for blocking a pipeline construction. The protesters used a "necessity defense," arguing their civil disobedience was justified by the urgent threat of climate change. The hosts comment on Gore's "uptalking" speech pattern and the emergence of political dynasties in activism.

Keywords: karenna gore, [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), pipeline protest

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Michael Avenatti, Stormy Daniels Legal Strategy (1:26:04–1:27:57)

The hosts examine the background of attorney Michael Avenatti, who represents Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. They highlight Avenatti's history working for a political opposition research firm funded by Rahm Emanuel and his ties to mainstream Democratic figures like Joe Biden. The discussion suggests Avenatti is a "dirty trickster" whose legal actions are strategically timed for political impact.

Keywords: [michael avenatti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-avenatti.md), [stormy daniels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stormy-daniels.md), [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), political opposition

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Sexual Harassment Legislation, MeToo Movement Critique (1:27:58–1:31:15)

A letter from 22 female senators demanding action on sexual harassment legislation in Congress has seen little progress in the Senate. The hosts criticize lawmakers for protecting their ability to use taxpayer funds for legal settlements. They also argue that the "Me Too" movement missed an opportunity to link Donald Trump's alleged behavior with Stormy Daniels to Harvey Weinstein's "casting couch" tactics.

Keywords: [capitol hill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitol-hill.md), [sexual harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-harassment.md), [me too](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/me-too.md), [stormy daniels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stormy-daniels.md), [harvey weinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvey-weinstein.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Facebook, Fair Housing Lawsuit (1:31:17–1:33:38)

Facebook faces a new lawsuit from fair housing groups alleging that its targeted advertising tools allow brokers to discriminate against African-Americans and single women. The hosts argue that the very nature of targeted advertising is to exclude certain demographics to reach a specific audience. They suggest that if the lawsuit succeeds, it could undermine the fundamental business model of digital advertising.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), fair housing act, [discrimination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discrimination.md), [targeted advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/targeted-advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Social Media Alternatives, Mastodon and Federation (1:33:38–1:37:48)

The hosts discuss why decentralized social media alternatives like Mastodon have not gained mainstream traction despite privacy concerns with Twitter and Facebook. They explore the lack of financial incentive for developers to build non-commercial networks and the difficulty of moving users away from established platforms. The conversation touches on the "Value for Value" model as a potential solution for funding such infrastructure.

Keywords: [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), [social networks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-networks.md), [monetization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monetization.md), [linux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linux.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Social Media, Psychological Impact and Value (1:37:50–1:42:04)

A philosophical discussion arises regarding whether society actually derives value from social networks. The hosts suggest that if Facebook and Twitter disappeared, most people would eventually move on without significant loss, unlike the disappearance of a utility like Amazon's AWS. They argue that social media often leads to depression and a false sense of needing to "keep up with the Joneses."

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/depression.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/29.md)

### 30. 2020 US Census, Citizenship Question Controversy (1:42:06–1:46:52)

The Trump administration's decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census has sparked lawsuits from California and other states. Critics argue the question will intimidate immigrant communities, leading to an undercount that affects federal funding and congressional representation. The hosts explain the constitutional purpose of the census and the political stakes involved in counting non-citizens.

Keywords: us census, [trump administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-administration.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [citizenship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizenship.md), [representation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/representation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Census History, Long Form vs Short Form (1:46:52–1:52:21)

The hosts clarify the history of the citizenship question, noting it has appeared on the "long form" or the American Community Survey for years, even if it was absent from the "short form" since 1950. They analyze the messaging from the White House and the media, suggesting that the current controversy is being amplified for political mobilization. The discussion includes the possibility of people simply checking the "citizen" box regardless of status.

Keywords: [census bureau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/census-bureau.md), american community survey, [sarah sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-sanders.md), [federalist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federalist.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Ari Berman, Census and Voter Suppression Claims (1:52:22–1:56:48)

Ari Berman of Mother Jones argues that the citizenship question is a tool for "nativist resentment" and voter suppression. He claims that an undercount of people of color will rig American democracy by shifting electoral power away from diverse states. The hosts critique Berman's rhetoric, specifically his grouping of all "people of color" into a single political category.

Keywords: ari berman, [mother jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-jones.md), [voting rights act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-rights-act.md), [voter suppression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-suppression.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Congressional Apportionment, California Funding Risks (1:56:49–2:01:41)

The debate over the census centers on how $675 billion in federal funding and 435 congressional seats are allocated. California officials fear losing billions in funding and multiple seats if immigrants do not participate. The hosts discuss the constitutional requirement to count "total population" and how this benefits Democratic strongholds with large undocumented populations.

Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), congressional seats, [federal funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-funding.md), [illegal immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illegal-immigration.md), [electoral college](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electoral-college.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Ari Berman Gaffe, Citizenship and Representation (2:01:42–2:04:40)

During an interview on Democracy Now, Ari Berman appears to make a gaffe by stating that "everyone who's here deserves citizenship," before correcting himself to say "deserves the ability to be represented." The hosts highlight this slip as indicative of the underlying political goal of granting voting rights to all residents regardless of legal status.

Keywords: [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [citizenship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizenship.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), ari berman, [gaffe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffe.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Census Solutions, Redefining Citizenship (2:04:41–2:08:05)

The hosts propose a simplified census with no demographic questions to avoid privacy concerns, though they admit it is unlikely to happen. They predict that activists will eventually message undocumented immigrants to check the "citizen" box to avoid ICE scrutiny. This leads to a discussion on the evolving definition of "citizen" in a globalized society.

Keywords: [census](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/census.md), [ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), citizenship definition

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Starship Troopers, Military Service and Citizenship (2:08:06–2:12:02)

Referencing the movie Starship Troopers, the hosts discuss the concept of earning citizenship through military service. They argue that immigrants who serve in the US Army should be granted automatic citizenship upon discharge. The segment includes a look at dictionary definitions of "citizen" and how the term is used to distinguish civilians from state servants.

Keywords: [starship troopers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/starship-troopers.md), [batman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/batman.md), [military service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-service.md), [merriam-webster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merriam-webster.md), [immigration reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration-reform.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/36.md)

### 37. No Agenda, Donor Credits and Birthdays (2:12:02–2:17:58)

The hosts read a long list of donations from "Associate Executive Producers," including contributions from Spokane Valley, Toronto, and Burbank. They acknowledge various "boob" and "777" themed donations and add several listeners to the show's birthday list. The segment reinforces the show's reliance on direct listener support to maintain its independence.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [spokane valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spokane-valley.md), [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [scottsdale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scottsdale.md), [costco wine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/costco-wine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Knighting Ceremony, Kaya and the Five Eyes (2:17:59–2:20:09)

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Kaya, who is dubbed the "Knight of the Five Eyes in Orbit." They recite the traditional list of "requisite" items for new knights, ranging from "Hookers and Blow" to "English Muffins with Butter and Honey." Information is provided on how new knights can obtain their official No Agenda signet rings.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [signet rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signet-rings.md), [no agenda knights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-knights.md), [hookers and blow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers-and-blow.md), [five eyes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/five-eyes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/38.md)

### 39. North Korea, Secret EU Peace Talks (2:20:12–2:22:51)

A delegation from the European Parliament revealed they have been holding secret talks with North Korea for three years to negotiate an end to its nuclear program. The hosts discuss the history of the Korean armistice and North Korea's long-standing request for a formal peace treaty. They suggest the EU is coming forward now to claim credit for diplomatic progress following President Trump's initiatives.

Keywords: [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [kim jong-il](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-jong-il.md), [peace treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peace-treaty.md), [armistice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/armistice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/39.md)

### 40. FBI Informants, Pulse Nightclub Shooter's Father (2:22:52–2:26:05)

New legal filings reveal that Sadiq Mateen, the father of Pulse nightclub shooter Omar Mateen, was a confidential FBI informant from 2005 to 2016. The defense for Omar's widow, Noor Salman, argues that the FBI withheld this information to avoid scrutiny of its own failure to monitor the family. Sadiq Mateen is also reportedly under investigation for illegal money transfers to Turkey and Pakistan.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [omar mateen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omar-mateen.md), [pulse nightclub](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pulse-nightclub.md), sadiq mateen, [informants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/informants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Second Amendment, Repeal Debate and ERA Comparison (2:26:07–2:30:34)

Former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens called for the repeal of the Second Amendment to facilitate gun control legislation. The hosts compare this movement to the failed Equal Rights Amendment (ERA), noting that taking away a right is much harder than adding one. They argue that the push for repeal will likely backfire on Democrats by mobilizing pro-gun voters in the 2018 elections.

Keywords: [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md), john paul stevens, [nra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nra.md), [equal rights amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equal-rights-amendment.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/41.md)

### 42. David Hogg, Media Narrative Discrepancies (2:30:35–2:33:29)

The hosts point out conflicting stories from Parkland student activist David Hogg regarding his location during the shooting. While Hogg initially claimed to be in class, a later interview suggested he rode his bike to the school after the event started to record video. The discussion focuses on the potential for "blowback" when the media elevates young activists whose stories may have inconsistencies.

Keywords: [david hogg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-hogg.md), parkland shooting, [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [media narrative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-narrative.md), [credibility](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credibility.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/42.md)

### 43. China, Oil Payments in Yuan (2:33:29–2:35:54)

China is reportedly taking steps to pay for oil imports in Yuan instead of US Dollars, a move that threatens the "petrodollar" system. The hosts discuss the historical consequences for leaders like Gaddafi who attempted to bypass the dollar. They speculate on potential US responses, including economic sabotage or supporting political dissidents within China.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), petroyuan, [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md), [us dollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-dollar.md), [gaddafi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaddafi.md), [geopolitics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geopolitics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Pothole Cereal Stunt, Millennial Slang (2:35:54–2:38:15)

A Michigan college student gained viral attention by filling a large pothole with cereal and milk and eating from it to protest road conditions. In a separate segment, the hosts discuss new millennial slang where "pretty" and "very" are contracted to the letters "P" and "V," such as "V cool" or "P good."

Keywords: [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [potholes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/potholes.md), [viral video](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-video.md), [millennial slang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennial-slang.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Amazon, Trump and Tax Treatment (2:38:15–2:41:10)

Reports suggest President Trump is considering changing the tax treatment for Amazon, which the hosts link to his frustration with Jeff Bezos's ownership of the Washington Post. They criticize the mainstream media for glossing over this potential use of the IRS as a retaliatory tool. The discussion notes the significant impact such a move could have on Amazon's market valuation.

Keywords: [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [jeff bezos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-bezos.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), tech stocks

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Sergei Skripal, Novichok Poisoning Investigation (2:41:10–2:44:24)

The investigation into the poisoning of ex-spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury has shifted to his home, where high concentrations of a nerve agent were found. UK Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has dismissed Russian denials as "ludicrous fibs." The hosts note the proximity of the Porton Down chemical weapons facility to the crime scene and suggest the incident is being used to influence public opinion on Brexit.

Keywords: [sergei skripal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sergei-skripal.md), [novichok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/novichok.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [porton down](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/porton-down.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Grid Security, TSA Pre-Check Failures (2:44:24–2:46:15)

A producer provides a technical explanation of vulnerabilities in the US power grid, specifically the use of standardized packet scrambling that creates a single point of failure. Separately, a report from San Francisco describes a security lapse where a dog was allowed through a TSA Pre-Check metal detector without proper screening, highlighting ongoing inconsistencies in airport security.

Keywords: [power grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/power-grid.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [pre-check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-check.md), [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Medieval Warm Period, Climate Science Testimony (2:46:16–2:51:17)

A 2006 congressional testimony from a geophysicist challenges the "hockey stick" temperature graph, arguing that the Medieval Warm Period was a real, global phenomenon that modern climate scientists have tried to erase. The witness describes being pressured by NPR to attribute warming to human activity and warns of an "irrational hysteria" in the media regarding natural climate cycles.

Keywords: [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [medieval warm period](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medieval-warm-period.md), [hockey stick graph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hockey-stick-graph.md), [michael mann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-mann.md), [geophysics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geophysics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/48.md)

### 49. No Agenda, Sign-off and Outro Mix (2:51:19–2:57:13)

The hosts sign off from the "common law condo" in Austin and Northern Silicon Valley. They thank the production team and remind listeners to return for the Sunday show. The episode concludes with a signature audio mix featuring clips of political figures, media gaffes, and the "Best Podcast in the Universe" branding.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [best podcast in the universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/best-podcast-in-the-universe.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1020-undercount-of-color/chapter/49.md)

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