# Bizarre Sex Crime > Legislators in Oregon target bizarre public sex crimes while Pfizer faces a massive lawsuit in Nigeria over experimental drug trials conducted on children during a meningitis outbreak. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 102 - **Published:** 2009-06-07 - **Length:** 1h 6m - **Topics:** Pfizer Lawsuit, Oregon HB 2478, [Gold Bullion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-bullion.md), [Air France 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), Asperitus Clouds, [Leo Laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), [Swine Flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime ## About this episode Oregon legislators passed House Bill 2478 to classify the propulsion of semen at others as second-degree sexual abuse following a disturbing incident at a Portland Target. The new law highlights a growing trend of specialized sex crime legislation as North American jurisdictions grapple with the legal nuances of solicitation and public safety. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the enforcement challenges of these statutes alongside the shifting legal landscape of the sex work industry in Canada and the United States. Nigeria is pursuing a massive legal claim against Pfizer for unauthorized 1996 Trovan drug trials that allegedly resulted in child fatalities and permanent deformities during a meningitis outbreak. This international legal battle coincides with reports of unauthorized HIV experiments on foster children in New York City and a World Health Organization push toward a level six pandemic alert for swine flu. Meanwhile, Germany is demanding the repatriation of physical gold bullion from U.S. custodial accounts as oil price manipulation concerns grow following Michael Greenberger's recent market analysis. In the technology sector, a viral outburst from Leo Laporte during a broadcast with Michael Arrington has sparked debate over professional conduct in the burgeoning podcasting industry. John C. Dvorak recounts a disastrous encounter with squirrel karma that resulted in a tire blowout while Adam Curry reviews the peculiar sight of San Francisco police officers patrolling on Segways. The duo critiques the tactical absurdity of flashlight grips in police procedurals like Numbers and CSI. The episode concludes with a review of the Peking duck at Shanghai 1930 and a look at the proposed classification of Asperitus clouds. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/transcript.md. ### 1. Shanghai 1930 Restaurant, San Francisco Dining Experience (0:01–7:02) Adam Curry describes a dinner at Shanghai 1930 on Stewart Street in San Francisco following a recommendation from John C. Dvorak. The experience included meeting manager Aura Green, listening to live jazz, and visiting the private Guangxi Lounge in the basement. Curry recounts meeting members of the Patel family from Uganda and discusses the quality of the Peking duck and porcelain Chinese soup spoons. Keywords: [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), shanghai 1930, aura green, dim sum, peking duck, guangxi lounge, patel family [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Live Free or Die Hard, Bruce Willis, Timothy Olyphant (7:03–9:40) John C. Dvorak reviews the film Live Free or Die Hard, noting a specific character named Dvorak within the movie. The discussion criticizes the "cartoonish" nature of modern action films, specifically citing scenes involving helicopters and cars. Dvorak also mentions actor Timothy Olyphant's performance in the film and his previous role in Hitman. Keywords: live free or die hard, [bruce willis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bruce-willis.md), timothy olyphant, [dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak.md), action movies, [hitman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hitman.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Paul Blart: Mall Cop, Segway Police, Kevin Epps (9:40–11:15) Adam Curry shares his reaction to the film Paul Blart: Mall Cop after watching it on a flight. The conversation shifts to the sight of real police officers using Segways in San Francisco. Curry also mentions a chance encounter with documentarian Kevin Epps and Mike Farah, a senior advisor to Gavin Newsom. Keywords: paul blart, mall cop, [segway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/segway.md), kevin epps, [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), mike farah [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Lard Health Benefits, Beef Kidney Fat, French Fry Chemistry (11:16–15:15) John C. Dvorak discusses a Slate article regarding the return of lard as a health-conscious cooking fat. He details the chemistry of rendering beef kidney fat, explaining its high smoke point and specific heat properties. Dvorak recounts a personal experiment with deep-frying french fries and chicken in rendered lard, ultimately expressing disappointment with the oily coating it left. Keywords: lard, [slate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slate.md), monounsaturated fat, beef kidney fat, rendering, [french fries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/french-fries.md), smoke point [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/4.md) ### 5. European Parliament Election, Voter Turnout Predictions (15:18–16:51) The hosts review their previous predictions for the European Parliament election voter turnout. While Adam Curry predicted 28%, the actual consensus reached approximately 38%, closer to John C. Dvorak's estimate of 39%. They discuss the possibility of official numbers being manipulated to avoid showing extremely low engagement. Keywords: [european parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-parliament.md), [voter turnout](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-turnout.md), [elections](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elections.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [predictions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predictions.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Susan Boyle, Reality Television Ethics, Death Row Concept (16:52–18:37) Following Susan Boyle's admission to a mental health center after Britain's Got Talent, the hosts discuss the psychological toll of reality television. They propose a dark satirical concept for a reality show featuring death row inmates where the "voted off" contestant faces execution. Keywords: [susan boyle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/susan-boyle.md), [britain's got talent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/britain-s-got-talent.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [larry king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-king.md), [death penalty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-penalty.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Pfizer Nigeria Lawsuit, Trovan Drug Trials, HIV Experiments (18:38–20:39) Nigeria is pursuing legal action against Pfizer for improper 1996 drug trials of the antibiotic Trovan during a meningitis outbreak. The trials allegedly resulted in the deaths of children and various deformities. The segment also references a BBC investigation into unauthorized HIV drug trials performed on foster children in New York City. Keywords: [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), trovan, [meningitis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meningitis.md), [hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md), drug trials, [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Cop Drama Tropes, Flashlight Techniques, Numbers TV Show (20:41–23:58) John C. Dvorak criticizes common tropes in police procedural shows like Numbers and CSI, specifically the "flashlight scene" where officers search dark rooms without turning on light switches. He mocks the tactical grip used on Maglites and compares it to the horizontal handgun grip trope in 1990s hip-hop cinema. Keywords: numbers, [csi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csi.md), flashlights, [tony scott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-scott.md), [ridley scott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ridley-scott.md), [police procedurals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-procedurals.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Asperitus Clouds, New Cloud Classifications, Flight 447 (23:59–29:27) The hosts discuss the potential official recognition of "Asperitus" clouds, which would be the first new cloud classification in 50 years. They examine photos from the Daily Mail and debate whether the formations are related to climate change or Photoshop. The segment includes anecdotes about seeing funnel clouds while flying near Chicago and Cannes. Keywords: asperitus clouds, [daily mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-mail.md), [meteorology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meteorology.md), [flight 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-447.md), funnel clouds, cloud types [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/9.md) ### 10. California Water Crisis, Salmon Extinction, North Korea (29:28–31:18) Federal agencies have ordered water supply cuts to California cities and farms to protect endangered salmon species during a three-year drought. The conversation shifts abruptly to North Korea as Adam Curry expresses a desire to visit the country to meet Kim Jong-il. Keywords: [salmon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salmon.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [drought](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drought.md), national marine fisheries service, [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [water supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/water-supply.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Kim Jong-il, Bordeaux Wine Collection, North Korea Travel (31:19–36:04) John C. Dvorak proposes traveling to North Korea to help Kim Jong-il inventory his rumored collection of rare Bordeaux wines. The hosts discuss the social aspects of high-end wine collecting and the potential for "wine diplomacy." They reference North Korean humor as depicted in travel shows like Globe Trekker. Keywords: [kim jong-il](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-jong-il.md), [bordeaux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bordeaux.md), [wine tasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wine-tasting.md), [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), globe trekker, [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Prostitution Laws, Canada vs United States, Sexual Crime Rates (36:04–38:56) A Toronto Sun article about declining prices for sex work in Canada prompts a discussion on the legal nuances of prostitution. Dvorak explains that while taking money for sex may be legal in Canada, solicitation is often restricted. They compare these policies to the United States and Nevada, arguing that decriminalization can lower overall sexual crime rates. Keywords: toronto sun, [prostitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prostitution.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [solicitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solicitation.md), [sex crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sex-crimes.md), [nevada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nevada.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Oregon House Bill 2478, Semen Throwing Legislation (38:57–41:40) Oregon legislators have passed House Bill 2478, which classifies the act of propelling "dangerous substances" (specifically semen) at another person as a second-degree sexual abuse crime. The bill was prompted by a June incident at a Portland Target store. The hosts discuss the legal definitions and enforcement challenges of the new law. Keywords: [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md), house bill 2478, sex crime, [portland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portland.md), [target](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/target.md), [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Credit Scores, Employment Screening, Air France 447 Data (41:41–43:33) The hosts discuss the increasing trend of employers using credit scores to screen job applicants. The segment transitions to breaking news regarding Air France Flight 447, with Curry reviewing leaked fault reports that indicate a TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) failure and low airspeed before the crash. Keywords: credit reports, [employment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/employment.md), [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), tcas, fault reports [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Leo Laporte, Michael Arrington, TWiT Outburst (43:33–45:34) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss a viral video of tech personality Leo Laporte losing his temper during a broadcast with Michael Arrington. They note that the uncharacteristic use of profanity by Laporte made the incident particularly impactful for his audience. Keywords: [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), michael arrington, [techcrunch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/techcrunch.md), [twit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twit.md), [blog](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blog.md), outburst [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/15.md) ### 16. No Agenda Donations, HEMA Underwear Premium, Brand History (45:35–49:41) The hosts discuss the financial state of the podcast and the need for more contributors. They brainstorm new "premiums" for donors, focusing on a limited run of HEMA-brand underwear with "No Agenda" embroidery. The conversation includes a nostalgic look at legacy brands like Marks & Sparks and Pennies. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [hema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hema.md), [underwear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear.md), [premiums](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/premiums.md), marks & sparks, [pennies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennies.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Podcast Funding, PayPal Account, Equipment Costs (49:42–51:04) In response to listener questions about where donation money goes, the hosts explain that funds cover equipment costs and production time. They contrast their "paper towel roll" microphone stands with the professional offices of organizations like PBS to emphasize their independent, low-budget operation. Keywords: [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funding.md), [equipment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equipment.md), mic stands, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Squirrel Karma, Tire Blowout Anecdote, Botox Bailout (51:05–53:48) John C. Dvorak shares a story about his wife hitting a squirrel, which resulted in a tire blowout and a ruined day, leading him to swear off "squirrel stories" due to bad karma. The segment shifts to a "Botox bailout" program in the U.S. where unemployed individuals receive free cosmetic procedures to improve their job interview prospects. Keywords: [squirrels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/squirrels.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), tire blowout, [botox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/botox.md), dr shapiro, [job hunting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-hunting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/18.md) ### 19. David Carradine Death, New York Post Headlines (53:48–56:31) The hosts discuss the death of actor David Carradine in Thailand. They criticize the New York Post for its "Hung-poo" headline and discuss the ongoing investigation into whether the death was a suicide or an accidental result of autoerotic asphyxiation. Keywords: [david carradine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-carradine.md), kung fu, [thailand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thailand.md), [new york post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-post.md), [headlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/headlines.md), autoerotic asphyxiation [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/19.md) ### 20. WHO Pandemic Alert, Swine Flu, Pharmaceutical Deals (56:32–58:26) The World Health Organization is reportedly considering raising the pandemic alert to level six for the swine flu. The hosts argue that the severity is exaggerated to fulfill pharmaceutical contracts for vaccines. Dvorak recalls his time as an air pollution inspector during the 1976 swine flu scare. Keywords: [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [pharmaceuticals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceuticals.md), 1976 outbreak [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/20.md) ### 21. John C. Dvorak's Travel List, Bernie Madoff Sentencing (58:27–1:00:36) Adam Curry reads a satirical "travel list" attributed to Dvorak that includes items like "shut down the meth lab." They then discuss the upcoming sentencing of Bernie Madoff, with Dvorak speculating that Madoff might be handed over to an international financial tribunal. Keywords: travel list, [bernie madoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-madoff.md), international tribunal, [sentencing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sentencing.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/21.md) ### 22. German Gold Bullion, Oil Price Manipulation, Michael Greenberger (1:00:38–1:04:23) Reports indicate that Germany is demanding the return of physical gold bullion held in U.S. custodial accounts. The hosts discuss the disparity between paper gold and physical assets. They also touch on oil price manipulation, mentioning the "whisper number" of $75 and an upcoming interview with Michael Greenberger. Keywords: [gold bullion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-bullion.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [michael greenberger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-greenberger.md), [market manipulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/market-manipulation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Ozuma Restaurant, San Francisco Sign-off (1:04:24–1:05:31) The hosts conclude the episode by discussing their dinner plans at Ozuma in the SoMa district of San Francisco. They sign off from their respective locations in Nob Hill and Northern Silicon Valley, announcing the next show for Thursday. 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