# Value Convo

> A White House in flux sees the departure of Hope Hicks as military influence grows and the national debate over gun control and pediatric mental health intensifies.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1012
- **Published:** 2018-03-01
- **Length:** 2h 51m
- **Topics:** [Hope Hicks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hope-hicks.md), [Security Clearances](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-clearances.md), [NRA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nra.md), Depression Screening, [Narcan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcan.md), [North Korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), FISA Abuse
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo

## About this episode

White House Communications Director Hope Hicks resigns following a closed-door congressional hearing where she admitted to telling white lies for President Donald Trump. The departure fuels speculation regarding a power struggle between Chief of Staff John Kelly and the duo of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. Reports indicate Kushner and Ivanka have faced security clearance downgrades while Kelly consolidates military influence within the West Wing.

In the wake of the Parkland shooting, President Trump surprised lawmakers by challenging the NRA and supporting universal background checks. Meanwhile, the American Academy of Pediatrics issued new guidelines for universal depression screening for children aged 12 and older, a move critics link to increased SSRI prescriptions. Internationally, a United Nations report claims North Korea is supplying chemical weapon components to Bashar al-Assad in Syria, while UK soldiers receive anthrax vaccinations in response to rising regional tensions. In New Zealand, authorities prepare to release a Korean strain of rabbit hemorrhagic disease to cull invasive populations.

Cultural oddities emerge as a recording of Ella Fitzgerald reveals a linguistic fractal in the word devosh. In Austin, the new central library becomes an unofficial homeless shelter, mirroring a national crisis that sees New York City librarians now carrying Narcan. The episode concludes with a knighting ceremony for Joseph Harrell and Martin Bills as the value-for-value model continues to fund the program without corporate interference.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/transcript.md.

### 1. European Winter Weather, Global Cooling Claims (0:00–2:00)

Severe winter weather across Europe and the UK prompted warnings from the NHS regarding a "perfect storm" of freezing temperatures, norovirus, and flu. Reports of snow in Rome and Ireland are cited as evidence for a potential "little ice age" or global cooling trend.

Keywords: [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), [uk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk.md), [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md), [rome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rome.md), [global cooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-cooling.md), [little ice age](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/little-ice-age.md), [polar vortex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polar-vortex.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Hope Hicks Resignation, Javanka Influence on John Kelly (2:03–5:14)

White House Communications Director Hope Hicks resigned, leading to speculation that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump orchestrated the move to undermine Chief of Staff John Kelly. The theory suggests Hicks acted as a spy for the couple, dropping news about Rob Porter's abuse history to blame Kelly for the PR disaster.

Keywords: [hope hicks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hope-hicks.md), [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [ivanka trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivanka-trump.md), [john kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kelly.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Security Clearance Downgrades (5:15–7:15)

Reports from BBC News indicate that both Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have lost or seen downgrades to their security clearances. Additional discussion focuses on Kushner's real estate debt at 666 Fifth Avenue and the media's emphasis on the address's numerical significance.

Keywords: [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [ivanka trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivanka-trump.md), [security clearance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-clearance.md), [bbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc-news.md), 666 fifth avenue

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Media Coverage of Hope Hicks Testimony, White Lies (7:16–11:21)

ABC News reported that Hope Hicks admitted to telling "white lies" for President Trump during a closed-door congressional hearing. Analysis of the broadcast highlights the use of "any collusion" soundbites and terms like "shockwaves" to frame the White House as being in a state of chaos.

Keywords: [hope hicks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hope-hicks.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), white lies, [collusion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/collusion.md), [cecilia vega](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cecilia-vega.md), [west wing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-wing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Hope Hicks Career History, Parkland Note Controversy (11:22–14:52)

Hope Hicks' professional background is reviewed, including her transition from a fashion model for Ivanka Trump to a key White House aide. Media scrutiny of a handwritten note used by President Trump during a meeting with Parkland families is discussed, with claims that Hicks may have written the "I hear you" reminder.

Keywords: [hope hicks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hope-hicks.md), [parkland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parkland.md), [trump tower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-tower.md), [ivanka trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivanka-trump.md), fashion line, [handwriting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/handwriting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Rob Porter Scandal, Trump Tower Meeting Memo (14:52–18:56)

The departure of Staff Secretary Rob Porter following domestic violence allegations is linked to a broader strategy to remove John Kelly from the White House. Further discussion addresses claims that Hope Hicks helped craft a misleading statement regarding the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer.

Keywords: rob porter, don jr, russian lawyer, [john kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kelly.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [domestic violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-violence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Military Influence in the White House, Deep State (18:56–22:43)

Chief of Staff John Kelly is characterized as a representative of military intelligence and the "deep state" taking control of the White House. The removal of various political operatives like Reince Priebus and Anthony Scaramucci is viewed as a consolidation of military power within the administration.

Keywords: [john kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kelly.md), [steve pieczenik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-pieczenik.md), [military intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-intelligence.md), [deep state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deep-state.md), conway, [scaramucci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scaramucci.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Syria Chemical Weapons, North Korea Partnership Claims (22:44–25:51)

A United Nations report allegedly links North Korea to Syria's chemical weapons program, claiming Kim Jong-un's regime shipped valves and thermometers to Bashar al-Assad. Skepticism is expressed regarding the "secret report" and its timing relative to US interests in the Golan Heights and regional pipelines.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md), bashar al assad, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/8.md)

### 9. State Department Briefing, Anthrax Vaccinations in UK (25:52–29:59)

State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert addressed reports of North Korean supplies reaching Syria, emphasizing the administration's policy of denuclearization. Meanwhile, UK soldiers are reportedly receiving anthrax vaccinations due to perceived threats from North Korea.

Keywords: [heather nauert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heather-nauert.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [anthrax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthrax.md), uk soldiers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Oprah Winfrey 2020 Presidential Run Speculation (30:00–33:58)

Oprah Winfrey discussed the possibility of running for president in 2020, stating she is waiting for a clear sign from God. The commentary contrasts the media's positive reaction to Oprah's spiritual claims with the criticism directed at Mike Pence for similar religious statements.

Keywords: [oprah winfrey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oprah-winfrey.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md), [meyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meyn-kelly.md), [joy behar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-behar.md), [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [god](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/god.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Austin Central Library Homelessness Observations (33:59–37:55)

A visit to the new $125 million Austin Central Library revealed a significant presence of people experiencing homelessness using the facility as a shelter. Despite pre-opening promises of integrated social resources, observations suggest that these individuals are largely being ignored by staff and the public.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [library](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/library.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), social services, central library, [architecture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/architecture.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Narcan Distribution in New York City Libraries (37:56–39:44)

Governor Andrew Cuomo signed legislation allowing New York City libraries to possess and administer Narcan to combat the opioid overdose crisis. The discussion questions whether similar measures will eventually be implemented in other major city libraries like Austin's.

Keywords: [narcan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcan.md), [opioid crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opioid-crisis.md), [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [libraries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libraries.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Ella Fitzgerald and the "Devosh" Fractal (40:00–41:30)

A recording of Ella Fitzgerald using the word "devosh" is presented as a linguistic fractal. The segment also explores the historical trend of long, spoken introductions in music from the 1930s and 1940s, featuring artists like Bing Crosby.

Keywords: ella fitzgerald, devosh, [bing crosby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bing-crosby.md), song intros, 1940s music

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Old Time Radio Archives, OTR Cat Catalog (41:32–44:01)

A vast collection of Paul Whiteman and Bing Crosby recordings from 1925-1935 was discovered on archive.org. This led to a recommendation for OTR Cat, a catalog specializing in obscure old-time radio plays, including rare episodes of "The Fat Man."

Keywords: [archive.org](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archive-org.md), paul whiteman, [bing crosby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bing-crosby.md), otrcat, the fat man, [radio plays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radio-plays.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Word of the Day, "The Sitch" Origin (44:01–44:51)

The "word of the day" is identified as "the sitch," a slang abbreviation for "the situation." The term is traced back to the Disney Channel animated series Kim Possible.

Keywords: the sitch, kim possible, [slang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slang.md), [cartoon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cartoon.md), inspector gadget

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Trump Gun Control Meeting, NRA Confrontation (44:53–47:32)

President Trump held a televised meeting with lawmakers to discuss gun control, where he appeared to challenge the NRA's influence. Trump expressed support for universal background checks and raising the age limit for purchasing certain firearms to 21, surprising both parties.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [nra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nra.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [chris murphy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-murphy.md), [background checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/background-checks.md), age limit

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/16.md)

### 17. No NRA Money Campaign, Nadine Smith (47:32–51:43)

Nadine Smith of Equality Florida is leading the "No NRA Money" campaign, which pressures political candidates to refuse donations from the gun rights organization. The movement is described as a coordinated effort funded by figures like George Soros and Michael Bloomberg to influence the 2018 elections.

Keywords: [nra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nra.md), nadine smith, equality florida, [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Media Exploitation of Parkland Students, NPR Segment (51:43–55:30)

An NPR segment featuring a Parkland student discussing her "activist life" and Twitter engagement is criticized as a form of media exploitation. The commentary suggests that parents and news outlets are using traumatized children to push political agendas.

Keywords: [parkland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parkland.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [activism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/activism.md), [child abuse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-abuse.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Dalton High School Teacher Shooting Incident (55:31–58:30)

Social studies teacher Randall Davidson was arrested after barricading himself in a classroom and firing a handgun at Dalton High School in Georgia. The incident is discussed in the context of the national debate over arming teachers, serving as a counter-argument to President Trump's proposal.

Keywords: dalton high school, randall davidson, [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), armed teachers, aggravated assault

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/19.md)

### 20. AR-15 vs Handgun Ballistics, Lawrence O'Donnell (58:30–1:03:35)

MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell and other media figures are criticized for their technical descriptions of AR-15 ballistics. The discussion deconstructs claims regarding "bullet speed" and "overripe melon" tissue damage, arguing that the reporting is designed to create fear rather than provide accurate data.

Keywords: [ar-15](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ar-15.md), [9mm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9mm.md), [ballistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ballistics.md), [lawrence o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lawrence-o-donnell.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), bullet speed

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Parkland Investigation, Swastika Magazine Claims (1:03:36–1:07:28)

ABC News reported that Nikolas Cruz left behind 180 rounds of ammunition and a magazine etched with a swastika during the Parkland shooting. The segment analyzes how the media uses these details to link the shooter to white nationalism and broader political narratives.

Keywords: [nikolas cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nikolas-cruz.md), [swastika](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swastika.md), [ammunition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ammunition.md), [david muir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-muir.md), [white nationalist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-nationalist.md), [parkland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parkland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Therapy Animals at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High (1:07:29–1:09:14)

As students returned to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the campus provided 150 grief counselors and various therapy animals. The inclusion of therapy goats is questioned, with a humorous aside regarding the animal's temperament and its historical association with satanic imagery.

Keywords: therapy dogs, ponies, [goats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goats.md), [parkland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parkland.md), grief counselors, [satanic symbols](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satanic-symbols.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Pediatric Guidelines for Universal Depression Screening (1:09:16–1:12:22)

The American Academy of Pediatrics has issued new guidelines calling for universal depression screening for all children aged 12 and older. Critics argue this is a move to increase the prescription of SSRIs and other psychiatric medications to minors.

Keywords: [american academy of pediatrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-academy-of-pediatrics.md), [depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/depression.md), [screening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/screening.md), [ssris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ssris.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [teenagers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teenagers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Pixley Middle School Attack Plot Arrests (1:12:22–1:14:44)

Two 13-year-old girls were arrested in Pixley, California, for allegedly plotting an attack on their middle school. Local authorities found a gun and ammunition at their residence, leading to a discussion on how local "me too" gun stories are being used to maintain national anxiety.

Keywords: pixley, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [middle school](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-school.md), [school shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-shooting.md), tulare county, [arrests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arrests.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Contrave Diet Drug Side Effects, Suicidal Thoughts (1:14:45–1:19:09)

A commercial for the weight-loss drug Contrave is analyzed for its disclosure of severe side effects, including suicidal thoughts in children and young adults. The drug, which functions similarly to an SSRI by targeting the brain's reward system, is criticized for being marketed despite these risks.

Keywords: contrave, [ssri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ssri.md), [obesity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obesity.md), [suicidal thoughts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicidal-thoughts.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/25.md)

### 26. No Agenda Art, Episode 1011 Feedback (1:19:10–1:22:18)

The show reviews listener-submitted artwork for episode 1011 by Darren O'Neill, featuring an empty FBI tip jar. A new end-of-show mix by Chris Wilson, designed as a 1980s-style answering machine greeting, is also introduced.

Keywords: [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [tip jar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tip-jar.md), [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [chris wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-wilson.md), [voicemail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voicemail.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Producer Donations, Dame Schwartz, Jenna D'Amico (1:22:26–1:26:44)

Donations from Dame Schwartz and Jenna D'Amico are acknowledged, with D'Amico celebrating her 33rd birthday. D'Amico shares that her best friend, the head of communications at RT in Moscow, listens to the podcast regularly.

Keywords: dame schwartz, jenna d'amico, [bellingham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bellingham.md), rt moscow, [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [dedouching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dedouching.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/27.md)

### 28. International Donations, Bitcoin, Jobs Karma (1:26:46–1:30:48)

Producers from Germany, Portland, and Baton Rouge contribute to the show, requesting "Jobs Karma" and "Stranger in a Strange Land" blessings. One donor mentions forwarding Bitcoin domains to the show, while another promotes cannabis information networks.

Keywords: [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [portland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portland.md), [baton rouge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baton-rouge.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [cannabis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannabis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Value-for-Value Model, Cash is Racist (1:30:48–1:34:35)

The show's "value-for-value" funding model is explained, emphasizing independence from corporate or NRA money. A listener named Ben shares that a local Indian casino refuses $50 bills because Ulysses S. Grant is on them, leading him to register the domain cashisracist.com.

Keywords: [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [nra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nra.md), grant, 50 dollar bill, [casino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/casino.md), cashisracist.com

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/29.md)

### 30. California Democratic Convention, Distracted Walking Laws (1:34:36–1:38:08)

At the California Democratic Convention, Senator Dianne Feinstein failed to secure an official party endorsement. Meanwhile, the city of Montclair has implemented a "distracted walking" ban, fining pedestrians for using cell phones or headphones while crossing streets.

Keywords: [dianne feinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dianne-feinstein.md), kevin de leon, montclair, [distracted walking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/distracted-walking.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), inappropriate hugging

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Social Media Algorithm Changes, SPLC YouTube Policing (1:38:09–1:42:03)

Facebook's algorithm changes have reportedly led to a 45% decline in engagement for President Trump's page. Additionally, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is now assisting YouTube in policing "extremist" content, raising concerns about the censorship of legitimate conservative voices.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [splc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/splc.md), [algorithm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithm.md), conservative content, [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Technology Impact on Child Development, Motor Skills (1:42:03–1:45:19)

British pediatricians warn that excessive iPad use is preventing children from developing the hand strength necessary to hold pencils. A study cited in The Guardian links high screen time to delays in expressive speech and the erosion of basic motor skills in toddlers.

Keywords: [ipad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipad.md), motor skills, [pediatricians](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pediatricians.md), [screen time](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/screen-time.md), [the guardian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-guardian.md), [handwriting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/handwriting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Screen Time Statistics, Self-Healing Human Body (1:45:19–1:48:03)

Discussion focuses on statistics showing teenagers spend up to eight hours a day on screens, with even higher rates for certain demographics. A theory is proposed that the human body will eventually reject these unhealthy digital habits as people become more aware of the associated health issues.

Keywords: [screen time](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/screen-time.md), [teenagers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teenagers.md), [health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health.md), [addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/addiction.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Pop Culture Podcasts, The Bachelor, Unreal TV Show (1:48:04–1:51:42)

A segment from a pop culture podcast discussing "The Bachelor" is analyzed for its focus on reality TV drama. The scripted drama "Unreal" is recommended as a more accurate depiction of the manipulative behind-the-scenes production of reality television.

Keywords: [the bachelor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-bachelor.md), unreal, [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [pop culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pop-culture.md), the free beacon, constance zimmer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Queen Bee Syndrome, Workplace Sexual Harassment Stats (1:51:43–1:54:51)

The "Queen Bee Syndrome," where women in power are uncivil to female subordinates, is discussed alongside a controversial statistic claiming 21% of women are forced to have sex in the workplace. These figures are challenged as being hyperbolically high and unrepresentative of typical office environments.

Keywords: queen bee syndrome, [camille paglia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/camille-paglia.md), [sexual harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-harassment.md), [workplace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/workplace.md), [usa today](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usa-today.md), [statistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/statistics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Menstrual Cramps vs Heart Attacks, CBD Benefits (1:54:52–1:57:18)

A report from Marie Claire claiming that menstrual cramps can be as painful as heart attacks is discussed. The use of CBD tea is suggested as an effective remedy for menstrual pain, while the comparison to cardiac events is met with skepticism.

Keywords: menstrual cramps, [heart attacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-attacks.md), [cbd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbd.md), marie claire, [medical studies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-studies.md), pain

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/36.md)

### 37. New Zealand Rabbit Hemorrhagic Disease Release (1:57:19–1:59:57)

New Zealand authorities plan to release a Korean strain of rabbit hemorrhagic disease (RHDV1-K5) to cull the invasive rabbit population. The discussion touches on the ethics of using viruses for pest control and compares the situation to kangaroo management in Australia.

Keywords: [new zealand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-zealand.md), rabbits, hemorrhagic disease, rhdv1-k5, [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [kangaroos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kangaroos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Jeff Sessions vs Donald Trump, FISA Abuse (1:59:57–2:03:10)

President Trump publicly criticized Attorney General Jeff Sessions for tasking the Inspector General with investigating FISA abuse rather than using Justice Department lawyers. ABC News reporting on the friction is scrutinized for claiming Sessions told Trump to "fire me," a phrase not found in his official statement.

Keywords: [jeff sessions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-sessions.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [fisa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisa.md), [inspector general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inspector-general.md), [pierre thomas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-thomas.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Admiral Mike Rogers, Russian Election Interference (2:03:11–2:05:50)

NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee that he has not been granted, nor has he requested, additional authority to act against Russian election interference. This contradicts media narratives suggesting Trump is actively blocking the NSA from defending the country.

Keywords: [mike rogers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-rogers.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [election interference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-interference.md), [richard blumenthal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-blumenthal.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/39.md)

### 40. PBS NewsHour, Russian Hacking Skepticism (2:05:51–2:11:21)

A PBS NewsHour segment on Russian hacking reveals that while 21 states saw "probes" or "scans" from Russian IP addresses, no vote totals were changed. The discussion argues that the primary goal of these reports is to "sow distrust" in the American electoral system rather than address a technical threat.

Keywords: [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [russian hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russian-hacking.md), [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), [voter registration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-registration.md), [ip addresses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ip-addresses.md), [spoofing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spoofing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/40.md)

### 41. San Francisco Tech Bus Attacks, FBI Involvement (2:11:22–2:15:44)

Charter buses transporting Apple and Google employees from San Francisco to Silicon Valley have been targeted by a gunman using a BB gun or rifle. The California Highway Patrol and the FBI are investigating at least 20 incidents occurring along the I-280 and Highway 101 corridors.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), tech buses, [chp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chp.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Monetizing Networks, No Agenda Cryptocurrency Idea (2:15:45–2:20:01)

A proposal to launch a "No Agenda" cryptocurrency or token via an Initial Coin Offering (ICO) is explored. The concept suggests that the value of the show's producer network could be quantified through a proprietary altcoin, potentially allowing both hosts and the audience to benefit financially.

Keywords: [cryptocurrency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cryptocurrency.md), [ico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ico.md), no agenda coin, [blockchain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blockchain.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [holland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Jason of Clear Creek Canyon (2:20:03–2:23:31)

A handwritten note from "Dirtus Curtis" in Colorado requests a "de-douching" for his friends and father. He also asks "Sir Jason of Clear Creek Canyon" to serve as the best man at his upcoming wedding, highlighting the community bonds formed through the show.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [black knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-knight.md), [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [wedding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wedding.md), best man, [de-douche](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douche.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Barbara Boxer Anecdote, Obama Electability Error (2:23:33–2:27:02)

A listener's note recalls a past prediction where one of the hosts claimed Barack Obama was "unelectable" prior to his 2008 victory. The segment also includes a brief anecdote about former Senator Barbara Boxer and the "5150" police code for mental health holds.

Keywords: [barbara boxer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-boxer.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [5150](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/5150.md), [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md), [electability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electability.md), [predictions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predictions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Producer Credits, Global Listenership (2:27:03–2:30:25)

Final donations and credits are read for producers from Hamburg, Miami, the UK, and Australia. The hosts acknowledge the diverse geographic locations of their supporters, including a mention of "Floyd's Knobs," Indiana.

Keywords: [hamburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamburg.md), [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md), [uk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk.md), [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Peerage Upgrades, Viscount of Diablo Valley (2:30:26–2:33:53)

Joseph Harrell and Martin Bills are officially knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable. Additionally, Sir Baker is upgraded to the status of "Viscount of Diablo Valley" for his continued support of the program.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [viscount](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viscount.md), diablo valley, joseph harrell, martin bills

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Mike Pompeo BBC Interview, Vladimir Putin Botox (2:33:54–2:36:37)

CIA Director Mike Pompeo's interview with the BBC is discussed, specifically his confidence in the 2018 elections. A humorous aside explores a rumor that the US considered leaking Vladimir Putin's Botox schedule as a form of psychological warfare.

Keywords: [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [botox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/botox.md), [major garrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/major-garrett.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Immigration and Cheap Labor, Justin Trudeau (2:36:38–2:39:00)

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is criticized for his stance on immigration, with the hosts arguing that businesses desire high immigration levels primarily for cheap labor. The discussion draws parallels between modern labor demands and historical systems of exploitation.

Keywords: [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [cheap labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cheap-labor.md), [agriculture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agriculture.md), [slavery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slavery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Anne Frank Train Controversy, Michael Wolff Interview (2:39:01–2:43:20)

Deutsche Bahn decided against naming a train after Anne Frank following public outcry. In other news, "Fire and Fury" author Michael Wolff walked out of an interview after being questioned by the Dutch and Australian press about his claims regarding a presidential affair.

Keywords: [anne frank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anne-frank.md), [deutsche bahn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-bahn.md), [michael wolff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-wolff.md), [fire and fury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fire-and-fury.md), [dutch press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dutch-press.md), [affair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affair.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Santa Cruz Homeless Encampment Relocation (2:43:21–2:46:47)

The city of Santa Cruz is closing a homeless encampment at San Lorenzo Park and moving residents to a fenced lot on River Street. The new temporary site is estimated to cost $90,000 per month to operate, sparking a debate on the high cost of managing homelessness in California.

Keywords: [santa cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-cruz.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), san lorenzo park, river street, [budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/50.md)

### 51. No Agenda Outro, "Bomb Them" Remix (2:46:56–2:51:01)

The show concludes with a call to support the program at protectmypodcast.org and a musical remix featuring Hillary Clinton's "we came, we saw, he died" quote and "bomb them" repetitions. The hosts sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

Keywords: protectmypodcast.org, [goat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goat.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), bomb them, [remix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remix.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1012-value-convo/chapter/51.md)

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